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NEW: Jakob Poeltl going 13th in the 2016 draft
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:47 pm [ID# 1723596] false
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Chad Sexington icon
NEW: We'll see. I think he'll be a top 5 pick. (nm)
Chad Sexington - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 07:25 am [ID# 1723629] false
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NEW: I think that Jakob is going to have a Bogut-esce season next year.
pappyman - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 10:49 pm [ID# 1723857] false
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NEW: I don't mind the fact that my wife can watch the Voice 3 times a week or even the fact that she is constantly calling me in to listen to some nobody.
JumpmasterUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:38 pm [ID# 1723593] false
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NEW: That's brutal man. Just brutal... (nm)
SeaTacUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 08:18 pm [ID# 1723607] false
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UtahUte72 icon
NEW: Could be worse. She could be addicted to DIY like my wife.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 08:37 pm [ID# 1723609] false
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NEW: Sad to say but that's her other passion. I just planted 16 Hicks yew bushes after I got off work tonight... At her request. (nm)
JumpmasterUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 08:41 pm [ID# 1723610] false
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NEW: Um. Dish..
jrj84105 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 09:29 pm [ID# 1723616] false
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NEW: RE: Um. Dish..
JumpmasterUte - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 05:25 am [ID# 1723626] false
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NEW: Meanwhile John Kerry squeals in delight.
Duhwayne - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:34 pm [ID# 1723592] false
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Carolina Cycling Ute icon
NEW: If accurate, good news. Let them kill each other off. (nm)
Carolina Cycling Ute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 08:04 pm [ID# 1723604] false
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UtahUte72 icon
NEW: Can we arm both sides and sit back and watch? (nm)
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 08:36 pm [ID# 1723608] false
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NEW: Haven't we already armed both sides . . . ? (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 08:47 pm [ID# 1723611] false
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NEW: Apparently not effectively enough otherwise they would have eliminated each other already (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 09:08 pm [ID# 1723613] false
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UtahUte72 icon
NEW: Exactly. (nm)
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 09:16 pm [ID# 1723614] false
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BulgieUte icon
NEW: I hope they never eliminate each other. The longer they're occupied with each other the better. (nm)
BulgieUte - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 06:23 pm [ID# 1723797] false
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NEW: Remind me when we armed ISIS? (nm)
AFUte - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 12:31 pm [ID# 1723692] false
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NEW: So a longtime friend in Chicago texted me
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 05:31 pm [ID# 1723542] false
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NEW: No clue. I'm not LDS but I suspect the missionary thing is two pronged: 1) Conversion of prospects; 2) The life experience and strengthening of faith of the kid.
BaldHatu - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 05:46 pm [ID# 1723544] false
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NEW: Didn't think of number two. Might be the overriding reason. (nm)
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 05:55 pm [ID# 1723549] false
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NEW: More important to internal marketing than the other. The church births more Mormons than baptizes them. Mission work galvanizes a good chunk of these and trains them to give 20+ hours a week and 10+ percent of their incomes, and to have more kids.
Duhwayne - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:03 pm [ID# 1723552] false
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KyleWouldDoIt icon
NEW: Not quite. Last year there were 296,803 converts and 116,409 children of record baptized (nm)
KyleWouldDoIt - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:16 pm [ID# 1723562] false
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NEW: any idea on how many missions last year (nm)
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:32 pm [ID# 1723565] false
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NEW: Just shy of 85,000 globally.
Duhwayne - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:19 pm [ID# 1723584] false
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utebehindenemylines icon
NEW: Dimishing returns on all those extra missionaries. Conversions per missionary is down. Perhaps they've already flooded the markets. (nm)
utebehindenemylines - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 10:26 am [ID# 1723660] false
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NEW: Well we need to get people marrying faster then. Modernity imperils the future. (nm)
Duhwayne - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:13 pm [ID# 1723580] false
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SeaTacUte icon
NEW: Why are they so bent on converting people? Easy answer - more converts means more tithing. Money always wins.
SeaTacUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 05:47 pm [ID# 1723545] false
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NEW: Why save food? When the second coming comes I will be like.... Jesus!! Show me how you turn that water into wine!?!? That is a serious good trick around the holidays, I'll bet!
BaldHatu - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 05:52 pm [ID# 1723546] false
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NEW: (it's apparent I don't know a lot about this stuff) (nm)
BaldHatu - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 05:53 pm [ID# 1723548] false
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Newbomb Turk icon
NEW: Perhaps some missionaries can explain it to you...... (nm)
Newbomb Turk - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 05:58 pm [ID# 1723551] false
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Maji Man icon
NEW: Prior to that there's supposed to be famine and war, and all kinds of bad stuff.
Maji Man - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:04 pm [ID# 1723553] false
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NEW: Bible is kind of like an old person. Starts young and innocent, grows violent, overthrows authority, takes on the world, screws up, corrects itself and settles into a zen calm in later middle age, then the brain shorts and spins off into bat$#!+ land (nm)
Duhwayne - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:22 pm [ID# 1723586] false
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480ute icon
NEW: The wheels start to come off in Genesis. Other than that I love your analogy. (nm)
480ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:27 pm [ID# 1723588] false
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Maji Man icon
NEW: Yeah, Revelation at the end is pretty crazy.
Maji Man - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:31 pm [ID# 1723589] false
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480ute icon
NEW: Makes sense considering that many people who believe there will be multiple anti-christs think Nero was the first. (nm)
480ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:33 pm [ID# 1723591] false
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NEW: I'm sure they've figured out the RIO on
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:04 pm [ID# 1723554] false
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LadyUte icon
NEW: If you have a child on a mission the family pays the cost. In cases where the family can't afford it that is when the church or other members help.
LadyUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:09 pm [ID# 1723559] false
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SeaTacUte icon
NEW: The cost of the mission is paid for by the family - not the church
SeaTacUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:11 pm [ID# 1723560] false
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NEW: Not exactly. Even for families that pay the full requested amount the LDS church ends up subsidizing a significant amount of the money. Furthermore, many missionaries can't pay this cost, so the church helps cover it (ironically, this is
scratch - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:16 pm [ID# 1723561] false
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utebehindenemylines icon
NEW: Good thing they're getting that 10% and tax free status then. (nm)
utebehindenemylines - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 10:28 am [ID# 1723661] false
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NEW: What's considered a good mission?
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:25 pm [ID# 1723563] false
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NEW: Damn. It's expensive to be a mormon (nm)
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:34 pm [ID# 1723568] false
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NEW: You have no idea. (nm)
Duhwayne - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 08:13 pm [ID# 1723605] false
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Zona Ute icon
NEW: Best post of the year! I think that should be the missionary theme song! (nm)
Zona Ute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 08:03 pm [ID# 1723603] false
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NEW: If it were about money they wouldn't send so many missionaries to third world countries that are ultimately huge drains on resources given the low incomes of converts and the cost of maintaining a presence in these countries.
scratch - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:09 pm [ID# 1723558] false
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NEW: Would it be safe to assume that the overriding
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:47 pm [ID# 1723573] false
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NEW: I believe the overriding reason is to spread the restored gospel of Jesus Christ for the benefit of the recipients of the teaching. However, I agree that galvanizing the faith of the missionaries is also a significant factor. (nm)
scratch - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:16 pm [ID# 1723581] false
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NEW: Two responses to this subthread: 1) the bulk of expansion to absorb the increase in numbers was to send missionaries stateside--half the church is in the US and that is the taxable base as you point out; and 2) the transformation of boys (and girls)
Duhwayne - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:58 pm [ID# 1723601] false
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codeRed icon
NEW: I always chuckle when I see post like this. If you only knew...... (long)
codeRed - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 10:14 pm [ID# 1723618] false
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SeaTacUte icon
NEW: Well said codeRed... (long)
SeaTacUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 11:08 pm [ID# 1723621] false
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NEW: The third world conversions are the long term investment banking on that country going industrial some day.
mokus - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 09:13 am [ID# 1723639] false
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Big Apple Ute icon
NEW: That may all be true, but if so, why don't they release audited financial statements?
Big Apple Ute - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 10:45 am [ID# 1723672] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: Actually, most religions DO release financial statements. (nm)
Puget Ute - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 11:23 am [ID# 1723683] false
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Big Apple Ute icon
NEW: That's great, if they do. I know the LDS church doesn't. I'd like to see them do so. (nm)
Big Apple Ute - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 01:38 pm [ID# 1723707] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: Agreed. The last one they released was 57 years ago (1958).
Puget Ute - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 01:51 pm [ID# 1723712] false
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UtahUte72 icon
NEW: Part of the reason is that the missionaries learn things
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 05:53 pm [ID# 1723547] false
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Newbomb Turk icon
NEW: "when the government inevitably fails" Really? Do you also keep your tinfoil hats in with your food storage? (nm)
Newbomb Turk - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 05:56 pm [ID# 1723550] false
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Daedalus17 icon
NEW: The end of the world being near is a core belief of the church. So much so it is in the name "Latter Day" or last days. The LDS were built on the end of the world and preparedness is a core value. Thus food storage is important. (nm)
Daedalus17 - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 09:30 am [ID# 1723645] false
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utebehindenemylines icon
NEW: "This is the most evil time in the history of the world" Heard that a million times. Too bad the stats beg to differ. (nm)
utebehindenemylines - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 10:31 am [ID# 1723665] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: One of the very oldest written documents in existence is a 5000+ year old Sumerian clay tablet decrying the sorry state of the world, and proclaiming that the world is about to end (i.e. God is going to destroy the world to save it). Any day now...
Puget Ute - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 11:15 am [ID# 1723681] false
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NEW: I know right... Like the government could fail... Show me when a government has ever folded.
jpace31 - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 10:30 am [ID# 1723663] false
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LadyUte icon
NEW: Job loss or other financial hardship is a good reason to have food storage. That can happen to anybody. (nm)
LadyUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:06 pm [ID# 1723555] false
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NEW: Good reasons - just wondering if there something more to it (nm)
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:30 pm [ID# 1723564] false
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LadyUte icon
NEW: The church encourages members to have a years worth of food stored. This has been something they have been doing for years. There isn't one specific reason they give. There are many instances where having food stored can help out your family.
LadyUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:34 pm [ID# 1723567] false
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NEW: again I understand planning for finacail troubles.
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:40 pm [ID# 1723570] false
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LadyUte icon
NEW: I don't know what to tell you. I don't ever remember being specifically told to stock food for the end of the world but I could be wrong. My attention can waver a bit. I do remember being told to save food and to rotate it so you should be constantly
LadyUte - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:45 pm [ID# 1723571] false
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Daedalus17 icon
NEW: But you were told that you would be there to see the 2nd coming of Jesus. At that time there would be major upheaval. You need to be prepared for the 2nd coming. Separate was teaching about emergency preparedness. I am just connecting the dots.
Daedalus17 - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 03:10 pm [ID# 1723727] false
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NEW: A year? Yikes
pangloss - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 09:25 am [ID# 1723643] false
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NEW: My best attempt at an answer. (long)
cald22well - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:07 pm [ID# 1723556] false
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NEW: Helpful answers (nm)
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:55 pm [ID# 1723574] false
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KyleWouldDoIt icon
NEW: I remember when Larry King asked Gordon B. Hinckley the same question
KyleWouldDoIt - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:08 pm [ID# 1723557] false
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wannabeaute icon
NEW: A returned missionary is typically far from humble. As my stake presidency serving friend once told me:
wannabeaute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:33 pm [ID# 1723566] false
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NEW: You being a return missionary, I have another
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:06 pm [ID# 1723579] false
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480ute icon
NEW: They obviously are not interested in you. (nm)
480ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:19 pm [ID# 1723583] false
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NEW: I'm worried
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:32 pm [ID# 1723590] false
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480ute icon
NEW: My kinda woman. (nm)
480ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 11:36 pm [ID# 1723623] false
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KyleWouldDoIt icon
NEW: Good question. I will try to answer.
KyleWouldDoIt - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:53 pm [ID# 1723599] false
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utebehindenemylines icon
NEW: "Because that's exactly the age they would be thinking almost exclusively FOR themselves." Fixed that for you. (nm)
utebehindenemylines - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 10:33 am [ID# 1723666] false
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NEW: Mormons are brainwashed... akin to Muslims. Yeah, I said it. (nm)
javadave - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:55 pm [ID# 1723575] false
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480ute icon
NEW: Are you a member of any religion? (nm)
480ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:01 pm [ID# 1723576] false
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NEW: Nope. (nm)
javadave - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:02 pm [ID# 1723577] false
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codeRed icon
NEW: Yet you think you are not brain washed?
codeRed - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 10:20 pm [ID# 1723619] false
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Daedalus17 icon
NEW: There is large variation in the result of brainwashing. For example as a child I was brainwashed to think McDonalds hamburgers were the best. Compare favorite hamburgers to giving 10% plus of your lifetime earnings. Or billion year Sea Org contract
Daedalus17 - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 03:33 pm [ID# 1723732] false
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SD_UTE icon
NEW: As a returned missionary (and the father of hopefully 2 future missionaries) here is my take
SD_UTE - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:03 pm [ID# 1723578] false
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NEW: Yikes....that's pretty heavy for a cold call at the front door. (nm)
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:20 pm [ID# 1723585] false
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HenryJ80 icon
NEW: Believing you have the one true church is the crux of the matter....
HenryJ80 - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 08:38 am [ID# 1723636] false
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NEW: I've heard many say they didn't know if it really was the truth until they came to the end of their mission. I couldn't imagine selling to people that which I wasn't sure about. That lack of conviction at the beginning is why I never went. (short)
mokus - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 09:18 am [ID# 1723641] false
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Daedalus17 icon
NEW: I totally understand why you do it. Truth is very important to me too. I just disagree with how you get the truth, I don't go looking for truth in a structure that tells me not to look at all the facts.
Daedalus17 - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 04:33 pm [ID# 1723759] false
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NEW: Matthew 28:19 (short)
ocgreg - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:17 pm [ID# 1723582] false
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NEW: Nope (nm)
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:24 pm [ID# 1723587] false
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o
NEW: God helps those who help themselves. (short)
ocgreg - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:43 pm [ID# 1723594] false
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480ute icon
NEW: Laziest proselytizer ever. (nm)
480ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:52 pm [ID# 1723597] false
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Daedalus17 icon
NEW: Are you talking about matthew 28:19 or ocgreg? (nm)
Daedalus17 - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 06:34 pm [ID# 1723800] false
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NEW: ok. have a nice day (nm)
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 07:55 pm [ID# 1723600] false
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NEW: On my mission there were some folks who let us in just so they could try to save us. That always seemed different from what I was trying do to, which was to share information with people who were interested in hearing it.
USS Utah - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 07:07 am [ID# 1723627] false
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NEW: Just finished reading The Boys in the Boat
stats guy - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 04:54 pm [ID# 1723532] false
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sevenufans icon
NEW: Ditto-- Maybe the U should go with crew. The Jordan River would be a fantastic venue!!! (nm)
sevenufans - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 10:49 am [ID# 1723674] false
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NEW: Dnews is wondering if the jimmer will play tonight
annarborute - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 04:34 pm [ID# 1723529] false
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sweetgrass icon
NEW: when you need a lock down defensive stopper on Curry
sweetgrass - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 04:37 pm [ID# 1723530] false
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Maji Man icon
NEW: The coach would likely wait for limbs to be lopped-off of other players before considering Jimmer in this series (short)
Maji Man - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 05:13 pm [ID# 1723539] false
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NEW: I tuned in to hear Gordon Monson get lit up by Checketts. I thin what I got was plagiarism. They have been rehashing for the last 20 minutes what Cougarboard covered a few hours ago. We need a public access sports radio show. Lolol.
Duhwayne - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 03:58 pm [ID# 1723521] false
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NEW: For real, I could go for a 1 hour daily independent local sports podcast to kill commute time. (nm)
mokus - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 04:15 pm [ID# 1723525] false
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NEW: Checketts is a bigger douche than Gordo (nm)
javadave - -- Monday 20 April 2015, at 06:38 pm [ID# 1723569] false
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o
NEW: That's a pretty bold statement, ha ha (nm)
jpace31 - -- Tuesday 21 April 2015, at 10:42 am [ID# 1723670] false
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