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NEW: So the medical marijuana in Utah is opposed? What a dumb stance, and yet a hemp bill is ok. This state has idiot politicians. (nm)
UtesMuss1 - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 10:19 pm [ID# 1806127] false
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NEW: Think how much porn watching would go down if marijuana was legalized (short)
Hammer - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 10:38 pm [ID# 1806130] false
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NEW: Lol, why the hell would porn consumption drop with legalized weed? Case in point: Portland has the most strip clubs and sex shops per capita in the country and probably near the highest weed use as well. (nm)
PDXUtefan - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 10:45 pm [ID# 1806133] false
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NEW: It is really baffling, but once the state can figure out how to get their (massive) chunk they'll legalize it. Look at how much $$$$ the state liquor stores bring in every year...
PDXUtefan - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 10:42 pm [ID# 1806132] false
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NEW: Have you seen "Kill the Messenger"? That might clear up your confusion some. Hint: when you play both sides, black markets are more profitable. (nm)
Zeous - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 10:47 pm [ID# 1806134] false
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NEW: I've seen parts of it, I understand the idea, the whole idea of the "war on drugs" is government speak for trying to appeal ridiculous D.A.R.E. generation of parents while making money off a self imposed "war".
PDXUtefan - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 11:04 pm [ID# 1806136] false
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NEW: Yes, but you're ignoring the other side of it. White hat/black hat. If you can create a black market for something and make money on the white hat side, fighting/enforcing the illegal side, while simultaneously running the black hat side...
Zeous - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 11:14 pm [ID# 1806137] false
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NEW: Not to mention privatized prisons. We lock up too many of our fellow citizens.
Homer_Crimson - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 09:06 am [ID# 1806158] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: MJ would become one of the biggest cash crops in the country. The plant itself will thrive on American farms. No cartels are even needed, because this could be a 100% domestic product. (nm)
Puget Ute - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 11:35 pm [ID# 1806140] false
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NEW: The muppet
wolandmd - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 08:07 pm [ID# 1806103] false
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NEW: Read Bernie's website. He explains most of it. (nm)
Riot West - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 08:17 pm [ID# 1806105] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: The 19 trillion debt is fraud. Money conjured out of thin air and leant into circulation instead of simply paid. It's not my debt, nor is it yours unless you believe it is.
Zeous - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 08:29 pm [ID# 1806109] false
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NEW: Does anyone ever wonder what money is?
Zeous - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 08:56 pm [ID# 1806111] false
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SubstiUTE icon
NEW: A HUGE part of the problem.
SubstiUTE - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 09:05 pm [ID# 1806113] false
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NEW: Makes one wonder if Congress/Potus make any real decisions, or if they are just window dressing playing their role. (nm)
Zeous - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 09:11 pm [ID# 1806115] false
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NEW: This is what I'm starting to believe. Doesn't matter whether Dems or Repubs run the white house or congress.... (short)
Virginia Ute - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 04:03 pm [ID# 1806219] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: I'm impatient. What is money? Everyone has heard the phrase "time is money", right? Well, it is, but that defition is lacking. Time is money... but only sometimes. (long)
Zeous - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 09:41 pm [ID# 1806121] false
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NEW: Should we get rid of the Fed? Go back to the gold standard?
ocgreg - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 09:23 pm [ID# 1806118] false
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NEW: Those aren't the only options. Gold standard doesn't work, it doesn't scale. But allowing it and silver as a second currency could balance out well should any wish to use it. (long)
Zeous - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 10:37 pm [ID# 1806129] false
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NEW: To be fair, you come across as fairly currency ignorant in your posts on the subject. The rabbit hole goes deep, but it is quite circular in this case, eliminating most of your concerns along the way.
TheBaron - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 05:19 am [ID# 1806142] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: Hm, well, your response consists of an ad hominem and an appeal to authority. Two logical fallacies and nothing substantive otherwise. The system does consist of robbing the little guy blind, or at least anyone who doesn't understand inflation. (long)
Zeous - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 01:58 pm [ID# 1806202] false
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NEW: By the way, if you care to explain your take on the circular nature of the rabbit hole and how I'm "not getting it", I'm all ears. (nm)
Zeous - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 02:19 pm [ID# 1806205] false
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Zona Ute icon
NEW: Smartest thing i've heard on UF.net in a while! Well said.
Zona Ute - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 09:41 pm [ID# 1806120] false
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TheBaron icon
NEW: I hope this post isn't serious.
TheBaron - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 05:31 am [ID# 1806143] false
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High Uintas icon
NEW: Colossal ignorance
High Uintas - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 07:42 am [ID# 1806146] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: The Federal employees aren't the problem. The Federal pension to which you refer (CSRS, where employees take home up to 80% of their High 3 salary as pension, ended for employees starting after 1984.
Puget Ute - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 09:00 pm [ID# 1806112] false
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NEW: RE: The Federal employees aren't the problem. The Federal pension to which you refer (CSRS, where employees take home up to 80% of their High 3 salary as pension, ended for employees starting after 1984.
wolandmd - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 10:03 pm [ID# 1806125] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: The only Federal employees who can retire at 50 and Immediately draw some kind of pension/benefits are retired, career military (Enlisted and Officers with over 20 years of service). All other Federal employees can retire after 62/65/67,
Puget Ute - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 11:31 pm [ID# 1806139] false
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NEW: RE: The only Federal employees who can retire at 50 and Immediately draw some kind of pension/benefits are retired, career military (Enlisted and Officers with over 20 years of service). All other Federal employees can retire after 62/65/67,
wolandmd - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 07:38 am [ID# 1806145] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: Stop immediately talking about federal employees. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I agree with you on the pensions for SOME state/local employees in SOME states (eg California),
Puget Ute - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 07:57 am [ID# 1806148] false
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NEW: As a federal employee who also has years of experience in the private sector, I can tell you that your notions about federal employee benefits and pay are way, way off. (nm)
UteFanatic - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 09:54 am [ID# 1806166] false
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Diehard Ute icon
NEW: I really wish government employees got the benefits the public thinks they do
Diehard Ute - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 12:29 am [ID# 1806141] false
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NEW: RE: I really wish government employees got the benefits the public thinks they do
wolandmd - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 07:53 am [ID# 1806147] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: One way to help Social Security remain solvent would be to eliminate the caps. Right now the cap is around $110k, so even people who earn far more than that only pay SS on the first $110k of income. That cap made sense in the 1970s, but not now. (nm)
Puget Ute - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 08:03 am [ID# 1806149] false
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NEW: RE: One way to help Social Security remain solvent would be to eliminate the caps. Right now the cap is around $110k, so even people who earn far more than that only pay SS on the first $110k of income. That cap made sense in the 1970s, but not now.
wolandmd - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 09:02 am [ID# 1806155] false
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NEW: Where are you getting this idea that public sector salaries don't lag behind private sector?
UteThunder - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 09:15 am [ID# 1806159] false
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NEW: RE: Where are you getting this idea that public sector salaries don't lag behind private sector?
wolandmd - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 10:17 am [ID# 1806169] false
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UteFanatic icon
NEW: The CBO analysis doesn't strengthen your assertion that federal employees make more than private sector employees.
UteFanatic - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 10:53 am [ID# 1806175] false
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NEW: Very well said. (nm)
UteThunder - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 11:06 am [ID# 1806179] false
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NEW: RE: The CBO analysis doesn't strengthen your assertion that federal employees make more than private sector employees.
wolandmd - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 11:48 am [ID# 1806189] false
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UteFanatic icon
NEW: I am an engineer with a GS-12 pay grade. Feel free to look up how much my salary and benefits package is worth and then compare that to a mid-career engineer in the private sector.
UteFanatic - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 12:31 pm [ID# 1806195] false
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NEW: Ah, I am biased because I am a beneficiary but I suppose as someone who isn't a beneficiary you aren't biased? Give me a break. And while you are at it, why don't you get me some of this data and published studies. Oh wait, Kahuna already did . . .
UteThunder - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 11:05 am [ID# 1806176] false
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NEW: ^^THIS^^ (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 09:03 am [ID# 1806156] false
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NEW: RE: I really wish government employees got the benefits the public thinks they do
UteThunder - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 09:01 am [ID# 1806154] false
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NEW: Not quite right
Big Kahuna - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 09:26 am [ID# 1806162] false
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NEW: Taking the average american wage and comparing it to the average for federal employees is a laughable and highly flawed premise.
UteThunder - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 09:43 am [ID# 1806165] false
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NEW: I just posted the same thing not realizing you responded with exactly the same counterargument as I did. Spot on! (nm)
UteFanatic - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 10:07 am [ID# 1806168] false
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NEW: This theory has been debunked so many times it's laughable.
UteFanatic - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 10:05 am [ID# 1806167] false
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Diehard Ute icon
NEW: You really want to go there?
Diehard Ute - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 12:53 pm [ID# 1806198] false
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UteFanatic icon
NEW: Some people are so ignorant about civil servants it's mind blowing.
UteFanatic - -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 02:13 pm [ID# 1806204] false
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NEW: Bonus question answer
pangloss - Top 25 Poster -- Saturday 6 February 2016, at 11:59 am [ID# 1806190] false
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NEW: Deniko Carter (short)
MTM - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 07:02 pm [ID# 1806086] false
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Vegas Ute icon
NEW: Did not qualify and went to a DII school in Texas (nm)
Vegas Ute - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 08:07 pm [ID# 1806102] false
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NEW: Signed in December with U of West Georgia.
Ute_In_Texas - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 08:18 pm [ID# 1806106] false
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NEW: True story...there was this one time I made out with Geena Davis... (nm)
Chad Sexington - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 06:54 pm [ID# 1806083] false
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NEW: Hittin the single malt early and often today eh (nm)
FlyfishingUte - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 07:09 pm [ID# 1806089] false
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Chad Sexington icon
NEW: Nobody picking up on the narrative... (short)
Chad Sexington - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 07:15 pm [ID# 1806090] false
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NEW: Hey it's your story (nm)
FlyfishingUte - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 07:18 pm [ID# 1806092] false
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NEW: uhmmm, hot?
annarborute - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 07:18 pm [ID# 1806091] false
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Chad Sexington icon
NEW: She was back then. (nm)
Chad Sexington - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 07:25 pm [ID# 1806094] false
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Vegas Ute icon
NEW: She certainly had her day...
Vegas Ute - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 08:12 pm [ID# 1806104] false
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NEW: Did she want to suck your . . . blood?
Mevsauce - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 08:34 pm [ID# 1806110] false
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Mullet Ute icon
NEW: Yep, I remember my first tranny. (nm)
Mullet Ute - -- Friday 5 February 2016, at 10:40 pm [ID# 1806131] false
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