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NEW: I applaud this zoob for understanding their lot in life. He's being honest and rational
annarborute - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 12:03 pm [ID# 1829754] false
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mokus icon
NEW: I don't know, that might have been trolling. Too self-aware and sensible. (nm)
mokus - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 12:34 pm [ID# 1829760] false
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UtahUte72 icon
NEW: I'm not buying into the "We would be in if we weren't being discriminated against" excuse.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 12:38 pm [ID# 1829761] false
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NEW: To a certain degree, I do buy it.
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 12:49 pm [ID# 1829763] false
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NEW: The Catholic Church, "technically," views homosexuality as a sin
ocgreg - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:25 pm [ID# 1829772] false
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NEW: Its not the religous beliefs that an issue, its the discriminatory practices. From the Notre Dame website:
Ute Bear - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:22 pm [ID# 1829800] false
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NEW: While that was heartwarming, the god of the PAC is mammon.
ocgreg - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:55 pm [ID# 1829814] false
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NEW: RE: To a certain degree, I do buy it.
Crafty Ute - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:28 pm [ID# 1829774] false
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WV_Ute icon
NEW: Its a factor
WV_Ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:05 pm [ID# 1829794] false
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UTE-MAN icon
NEW: Been there done that. Its the main reason all of my children have left the state, they can't stand the religious bigotry of Utah and they won't raise their children here. (nm)
UTE-MAN - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:17 pm [ID# 1829799] false
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NEW: The ONLY thing that is keeping me here now is being so invested in the URS retirement system. Once I have my 30 in and can retire at 58 I am givng serious consideration to doing so and leaving. (nm)
FlyfishingUte - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 04:29 pm [ID# 1829833] false
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UTEDUDE icon
NEW: I'm just waiting on the wife, she's also in URS
UTEDUDE - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:57 pm [ID# 1829855] false
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NEW: Yeah I've got six more years to get my thirty in and then I can start collecting.
FlyfishingUte - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 06:33 pm [ID# 1829866] false
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NEW: Quoted: The "We're not in the PAC 12 or Big 12 because of religious bigotry" is pure BS.
TheJuggernaut - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 12:54 pm [ID# 1829764] false
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NEW: tds fan continues to use the religion, religious bigotry card..... oh the irony. (nm)
UtesMuss1 - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:32 pm [ID# 1829776] false
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NEW: RE: tds fan continues to use the religion, religious bigotry card..... oh the irony.
WV_Ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:07 pm [ID# 1829797] false
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tarheelio icon
NEW: Indeed, being excluded for your own bigotry is not the same as being a victim of bigotry. (nm)
tarheelio - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:52 pm [ID# 1829813] false
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Big Kahuna icon
NEW: Unless if you are a Zoob THey are butt hurt and complicated, crazy ex coming back for more. (nm)
Big Kahuna - -- Tuesday 28 June 2016, at 08:04 am [ID# 1829884] false
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NEW: Dude clearly ain't a Zoob. May be a TDS alum, but not a Zoob.
maximumkungfu - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:40 pm [ID# 1829804] false
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NEW: Why do you come here? Seriously. Byu had two chances and blew them both. That is why. (nm)
Duhwayne - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:41 pm [ID# 1829805] false
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The Thrill icon
NEW: It's the stigma of being associated with a group that freely opposes basic human rights and defy's federal legislation until forced to comply. Who want's to be connected to that? (nm)
The Thrill - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 04:41 pm [ID# 1829841] false
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TheRealU icon
NEW: So which signees from this class are not on campus yet?
TheRealU - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:35 am [ID# 1829722] false
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UtahUte72 icon
NEW: It sounds like Tafua was the only one in danger. (nm)
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:40 am [ID# 1829726] false
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UTE-MAN icon
NEW: I hope not we need all hands on deck. (nm)
UTE-MAN - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:44 am [ID# 1829727] false
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TheRealU icon
NEW: Whitt has already announced he won't be here this season. (nm)
TheRealU - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:54 am [ID# 1829732] false
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NEW: Alec Dana will be arriving tomorrow, all others that haven't already reported (besides Kurtis Taufa) will arrive sometime between now and fall camp (nm)
afro14 - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 03:08 pm [ID# 1829815] false
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NEW: I'll just leave this right here...................
FlyfishingUte - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:15 am [ID# 1829708] false
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HoopUte icon
NEW: RE: I'll just leave this right here...................
HoopUte - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:50 am [ID# 1829729] false
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NEW: I found it an interesting read from the perspective of one side demonizing the other (nm)
FlyfishingUte - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 11:13 am [ID# 1829737] false
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NEW: IDK - I read the article and found it spot on. You may not love the source but the content is spot on. The last paragraph was especially poignant.
brettski - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 11:56 am [ID# 1829749] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: Bill Maher called for a page one rewrite of the constitution this week. Larry Wilmore sounded rational for a minute when he reminded the panel that governments making lists of people to deny rights is scary. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:55 pm [ID# 1829787] false
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480ute icon
NEW: What did he say exactly? Not being a smartass, I missed it. (nm)
480ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:41 pm [ID# 1829850] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: Here it is. Paul Begala pretends the Orlando shooter was on any list.
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:58 pm [ID# 1829856] false
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NEW: Worst part of that video clip was right at the end
Thlete - -- Tuesday 28 June 2016, at 08:23 am [ID# 1829885] false
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NEW: I didn't take it that way at all. He said that after the Brady Bill was passed nineteen representatives lost their seats, but that nobody batted an eye after Republicans shot down gun reform legislation proposed by Obama after Sandy Hook.
480ute - -- Tuesday 28 June 2016, at 12:11 pm [ID# 1829931] false
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NEW: That's how the modern Democratic Party rolls
ocgreg - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 12:46 pm [ID# 1829762] false
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Big Mac icon
NEW: This site has become so predictable and pathetic. If you even dare express a conservative viewpoint or counterviewpont it is almost a blue star guarantee. Group think in action (nm)
Big Mac - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:00 pm [ID# 1829765] false
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NEW: RE: Wow, that is horrible. Did someone really give a blue star?
Daedalus17 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:55 pm [ID# 1829786] false
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o
NEW: Ok that was funny (nm)
FlyfishingUte - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 04:01 pm [ID# 1829826] false
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rbentz icon
NEW: I am with you. I rarely express my political views here anymore. It isn't worth the foul vitriolic responses. (nm)
rbentz - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:45 pm [ID# 1829807] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: I've actually been ignored by pretty few of the leftist elite considering the level of disagreement I engage them with. I find it fun to ruffle feathers. Stars are for shutting up annarbor and zoobs (non-paid members), beyond that they don't matter.
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 04:01 pm [ID# 1829825] false
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480ute icon
NEW: You say this as if no liberals here are capable of civil discourse, or ever argue with empirical evidence to support their stances.
480ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:02 pm [ID# 1829843] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: It was nice to see UteDude actually contribute beyond blue stars today. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:19 pm [ID# 1829847] false
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UTEDUDE icon
NEW: Fu$k You.....
UTEDUDE - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:46 pm [ID# 1829851] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: Red star for you! (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:54 pm [ID# 1829853] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: You're just so precious!
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:55 pm [ID# 1829854] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: You're just a racist ocgreg, especially when it comes to immigration. Because Mexican is a race, all illegal immigrants are Mexican, and none of them are felons. Also if there were harsher gun laws here a porous border wouldn't be a problem.
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 03:48 pm [ID# 1829821] false
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NEW: And don't forget xenophobic.
ocgreg - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 04:26 pm [ID# 1829832] false
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480ute icon
NEW: This is one area where the left has been disappointing.
480ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:47 pm [ID# 1829852] false
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NEW: And the Republicans roll with obstruction, attacks on Roe V Wade et al
FlyfishingUte - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:02 pm [ID# 1829844] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: Excuse me. My argument today was against PP v. Casey. If the person I was discussing it with were literate on the topic then it might have gotten interesting. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 05:21 pm [ID# 1829848] false
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NEW: yeah well just thought I'd chime in and reply to OCgreg.
FlyfishingUte - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 06:37 pm [ID# 1829867] false
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The Thrill icon
NEW: I don't think I would do well in Texas.
The Thrill - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 09:48 am [ID# 1829686] false
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NEW: I haven't lived in Texas, but it wouldn't surprise me if living in Texas is a lot like living in Utah politically. I bet if you move to some of the more populus cities like Austin there's probably a vibrant liberal scene. (nm)
P-Worm - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 09:55 am [ID# 1829692] false
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Maji Man icon
NEW: "Keep Austin Weird" is their slogan.
Maji Man - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:05 am [ID# 1829696] false
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The Thrill icon
NEW: What I've read about Austin is I could probably tolerate it there. (nm)
The Thrill - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:11 am [ID# 1829703] false
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The Thrill icon
NEW: Let me give you my outsiders perspective of Texans.
The Thrill - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:09 am [ID# 1829699] false
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Maji Man icon
NEW: RE: Let me give you my outsiders perspective of Texans.
Maji Man - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:30 am [ID# 1829718] false
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NEW: Houston has regularly been in the top 10 for "most obese cities" in America.
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:36 am [ID# 1829724] false
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The Thrill icon
NEW: I'm sure it's not as bad as I suspect but I still have no desire to visit. (nm)
The Thrill - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:51 am [ID# 1829730] false
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Big Mac icon
NEW: I get what you're saying. I know I'd struggle living in Massachussetts... (short)
Big Mac - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:05 am [ID# 1829695] false
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The Thrill icon
NEW: I thought that was Mitt's state? Can't be too lefty (nm)
The Thrill - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 11:35 am [ID# 1829743] false
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480ute icon
NEW: No real reason, but this has me thinking about last nights Silicon Valley episode:
480ute - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 12:23 pm [ID# 1829758] false
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UTE-MAN icon
NEW: Texas has a mentality all of its own. Somewhat like California or New York.
UTE-MAN - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:06 am [ID# 1829697] false
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UtahUte72 icon
NEW: I don't know a lot about the law in Texas,
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:10 am [ID# 1829701] false
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NEW: The left isn't opposed to medical standards for abortions. They are opposed to obtrusive standards that could make it more difficult to get an abortion. (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:15 am [ID# 1829709] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: Yeah, like making an attempt to inform the father. What an undue burden that is. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:20 am [ID# 1829710] false
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NEW: I agree. I can't think of one good reason why a woman should have to notify the father before having an abortion. (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:27 am [ID# 1829717] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: I guess you don't think men should pay child support either then. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:48 am [ID# 1829728] false
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NEW: WTF? How does that equate AT ALL? Come on now, give us an exhaustive list of all of the GOOD reasons the father should be notified before a woman is allowed to have an abortion. I can't wait for this. (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:52 am [ID# 1829731] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: The man is presumptively responsible for the support of the child, but has no presumptive interest in whether that child is going to be born? (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 11:29 am [ID# 1829741] false
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NEW: If that is your position, then it is safe to assume that the father should be able to tell a woman she has to get an abortion even if she doesn't want one? (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 11:35 am [ID# 1829744] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: No. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 11:37 am [ID# 1829745] false
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NEW: Ok then, if he can't tell a woman to get an abortion, then why should he get to tell her not to have one? Also, I'm still waiting for the list of good reasons a woman should have to notify the father before getting an abortion. (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 11:52 am [ID# 1829747] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: Notification is not consent. Duh. The only good reason I need is that the child is 50% his. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 12:01 pm [ID# 1829752] false
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NEW: So what purpose does notifying the father serve then?
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 12:18 pm [ID# 1829757] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: You really struggle with reading comprehension. I didn't say it was no burden, I said it wasn't an undue burden. Also, I gave you a reason, the father's property interest in the child. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:01 pm [ID# 1829766] false
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NEW: Your sarcastic reply about "undue burdens" when I was talking about "obtrusive standards" is where the lack of reading comprehension began. So please, tell me more about MY lack of reading comprehension.
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:26 pm [ID# 1829773] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: Thanks for proving my point.
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:37 pm [ID# 1829778] false
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o
NEW: How long have you been a BYU fan? (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:44 pm [ID# 1829781] false
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NEW: It had to be asked.
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:51 pm [ID# 1829784] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: You're assigning them the fanbase they claim.
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:02 pm [ID# 1829790] false
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NEW: Keyword: SPOUSAL
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:27 pm [ID# 1829801] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: If I were 480, I'd go back and edit to make all of my arguments be consistent with spousal notification. But, I don't need to because even in this argument I've got a "good reason" according to a majority for notification in at least one circumstance (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:45 pm [ID# 1829808] false
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NEW: Yes, in one of the most rare circumstances. Bra - vo. (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 04:29 pm [ID# 1829835] false
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UTE-MAN icon
NEW: Hey you just don't get it. It's a Conservative way of thinking. You know like they want small government unless it involves something like abortions and then they want total government and say in the matter.
UTE-MAN - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:37 pm [ID# 1829779] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: The father is the government? I didn't realize that fathers were "the man" in that context. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:38 pm [ID# 1829780] false
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UTE-MAN icon
NEW: Another one of the long list of things you don't realize. (nm)
UTE-MAN - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 03:28 pm [ID# 1829818] false
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Maji Man icon
NEW: How would the state know who the father is?
Maji Man - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:15 pm [ID# 1829769] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: A spouse is presumptively the father, or someone she's divorced in the last 300 days. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:18 pm [ID# 1829770] false
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NEW: So people don't have sex out of wedlock in your world? What fantasy land is this? (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:28 pm [ID# 1829775] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: That's the legal standard for presumptive paternity in most states. Co-habitation is also usually considered when it becomes an issue. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:34 pm [ID# 1829777] false
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NEW: And . . . ? (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 01:49 pm [ID# 1829783] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: Well, apparently you think the real world standard is a fantasy world standard. Just go back to your unicorns and rainbows, it's ok. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:04 pm [ID# 1829793] false
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NEW: Except, in the real world the overwhelming majority of abortions are sought by women pregnant out of wedlock(~85% ), so again I say: And . . . ? (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:33 pm [ID# 1829802] false
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Mevsauce icon
NEW: See above where I argued for an "attempt" at notification. Can't happen in all circumstances. I don't know why you think you've really got me here. (nm)
Mevsauce - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 02:48 pm [ID# 1829811] false
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UtahUte72 icon
NEW: Like I said, I'm not familiar with the particulars of the law in Texas.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:25 am [ID# 1829714] false
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The Thrill icon
NEW: The design of that bill was to make abortion clinics more difficult to be open.
The Thrill - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:22 am [ID# 1829711] false
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Newbomb Turk icon
NEW: Well, you would be wrong. Go watch the John Oliver piece about it.
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:26 am [ID# 1829716] false
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The Thrill icon
NEW: I got you.
The Thrill - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:32 am [ID# 1829720] false
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pangloss icon
NEW: Washington Post article and the opinion
pangloss - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 12:00 pm [ID# 1829751] false
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NEW: If experience is an indicator of success, this may be Utah's best chance to win the Pac-12 since joining the league.
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 09:41 am [ID# 1829677] false
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Maji Man icon
NEW: I think OL experience counts for a lot.
Maji Man - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 09:47 am [ID# 1829683] false
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NEW: According to Steele, Utah is #18 in the country and #2 in the Pac-12 in returning starts on the OL. USC is #2 in NCAA, #1 in Pac-12. Cal is #20 & #3. (nm)
UteThunder - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:10 am [ID# 1829700] false
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Maji Man icon
NEW: muchas gracias (nm)
Maji Man - -- Monday 27 June 2016, at 10:22 am [ID# 1829712] false
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NEW: I wonder if he's counting Hiva in that group.
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NEW: We are unlikely to get another year as easy as last year where Oregon was on a down year, USC had an alcoholic at head coach, UCLA was on a freshman QB and Arizona was wracked with injuries. (nm)
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NEW: We didn't get to play USC with Sark at the helm. (nm)
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