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Sandy Ute icon
NEW: How is polygamy still illegal in Utah now that gay marriage is legal??
Sandy Ute - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:57 pm [ID# 1863491] false
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5Utes icon
NEW: As a general rule, if something in the United States benefits white men, we're against it. (nm)
5Utes - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:08 am [ID# 1863494] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: Neo-colonialism. (nm)
Zeous - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:09 am [ID# 1863495] false
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Riot West icon
NEW: someone get this guy a safe space now! (short)
Riot West - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:11 am [ID# 1863496] false
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NEW: see I thought we were only against it IF it exclusively benefits old white men (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:19 am [ID# 1863500] false
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TheBaron icon
NEW: Reality is literally the exact opposite and always has been. (nm)
TheBaron - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 01:36 am [ID# 1863507] false
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mokus icon
NEW: Only white men can be polygamists? This only benefits white men? That is a very strange statement. (nm)
mokus - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 09:48 am [ID# 1863543] false
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NEW: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL (nm)
Red Son - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 10:19 am [ID# 1863556] false
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Sandy Ute icon
NEW: Polygamy doesn't benefit men, it benefits women.
Sandy Ute - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 04:42 am [ID# 1863509] false
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Newbomb Turk icon
NEW: That wasn't even a good try. It was lazy and trite. Step up your game. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 07:09 am [ID# 1863515] false
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NEW: What's the scouting report on Oregon basketball? Haven't seen them play this year. (nm)
COute - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:26 pm [ID# 1863457] false
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NEW: they are very good. Ranked 11th very athletic (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:37 pm [ID# 1863460] false
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NEW: Fast/slow paced? 3 point shooters? Zone? Man? (nm)
COute - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:45 pm [ID# 1863463] false
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NEW: they play quick. Inside out usually man defense. Very balanced (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:50 pm [ID# 1863467] false
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The Thrill icon
NEW: Very athletic as usual, long and play the lanes.
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 08:33 am [ID# 1863522] false
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utefansince79 icon
NEW: Brooks is a challenging matchup for any team.
utefansince79 - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 09:09 am [ID# 1863529] false
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Vegas Ute icon
NEW: Oregon is a tough match-up for Utah personnel wise
Vegas Ute - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 09:23 am [ID# 1863530] false
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MinnesotaUte icon
NEW: Very good analysis, agree, we share the same fears and I'll add one
MinnesotaUte - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 09:40 am [ID# 1863539] false
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NEW: So here's a question for republicans that believe people ought take care of themselves etc
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 08:33 pm [ID# 1863426] false
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UTE BC icon
NEW: Term limits would take care of this abuse that happens on both sides of the aisle (nm)
UTE BC - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:05 pm [ID# 1863433] false
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NEW: I choose Utah because that is where I reside. I'm sure it happens elsewhere I agree term limits would help. I think IF they are going to have this it should basically be equal to Medicaid.
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:09 pm [ID# 1863436] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: California has term limits and the lobbyists absolutely run the show and get absolutely everything they want. There are worse things than lifetime healthcare coverage for people who manage to last 10 years. (nm)
Puget Ute - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:31 pm [ID# 1863442] false
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NEW: Which is why politicians need full disclosure transparency etc
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:42 pm [ID# 1863449] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: I am 100% behind a law requiring transparency in government at both the state and federal level. I want a congresscritter to be forced to disclose that the Acme Widget company gave him $5000 toward his campaign when he stands up to...
Puget Ute - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:58 pm [ID# 1863452] false
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NEW: exactly but it will never happen (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:21 pm [ID# 1863480] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: As if all governments ever organized, and all government employees don't benefit from it? This is what you get with big, powerful government. Along with your pension. Enjoy it.
Zeous - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:00 pm [ID# 1863453] false
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NEW: I won't be getting FREE health care for life. And I will enjoy my pension. And I will do so in a place of my choosing. You still haven't told us how you make a buck
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:44 pm [ID# 1863462] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: Doesn't matter. You profit from the plunder of the tax payers all the same, so get off your high horse or do the altruistic thing and donate your plundered profits back for the greater good. (nm)
Zeous - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:53 pm [ID# 1863469] false
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NEW: of course it matters. When I retire I will have put in 30 yrs. way to avoid the rest of the post
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:01 pm [ID# 1863471] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: Where is this classic American paradise that plunders little and has no welfare state? You must mean somewhere outside the US, because everyone here pays for welfare, if they produce.
Zeous - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:08 pm [ID# 1863474] false
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NEW: Software companies pay no State Sales tax in Utah, right? (nm)
EighthDay - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:16 pm [ID# 1863475] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: Educate yourself. What do you do for a living? (nm)
Zeous - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:21 pm [ID# 1863479] false
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o
NEW: It was just a question, you could simply answer it rather than try to be a tough guy.
EighthDay - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:27 pm [ID# 1863483] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: No, you could just answer it yourself. Google is there for you as much as for me. (nm)
Zeous - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:36 pm [ID# 1863485] false
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NEW: a tropical island in the carribean or perhaps Alaska
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:19 pm [ID# 1863477] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: So do it. Nobody's holding a gun to your head if you use pen and paper, but if you don't pay your taxes... gun to head and jail time. Spot the difference yet? (nm)
Zeous - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:22 pm [ID# 1863481] false
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NEW: Actually the software makers have made society dependent on them. Like a drug dealer does. And I pay plenty of taxes but like trump I won't release my return (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:37 pm [ID# 1863486] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: Pick a place that doesn't tax retirement income and with low sales/property tax. Costa Rica is great for expats.
Puget Ute - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:27 pm [ID# 1863482] false
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NEW: That is exactly what I'm thinking of doing. (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:40 pm [ID# 1863487] false
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o
NEW: software companies are the king of pilferage and plunder
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:28 pm [ID# 1863484] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: I pay taxes so people can have fluffy jobs helping elderly people stay healthy and retire to carribean islands. I wish my contributions went to things that actually did make society better, but that's what they go to. Oh, and to lifetime health
Zeous - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:51 pm [ID# 1863488] false
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o
NEW: you forgot my two dogs, my rental property, too many fly rods and cameras and the new 4K tv you are buying for Tacoma and me. When can we expect those? Tacoma already broke his old one (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:56 pm [ID# 1863490] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: Well I can't list every single piece of plunder, now can I. (nm)
Zeous - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:01 am [ID# 1863492] false
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NEW: I assumed you were keeping track so thst you could keep score and remind of it on a daily basis. So t you have some software or an app that will do that for you?
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:16 am [ID# 1863498] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: Nah, your frequent boasting is sufficient. (nm)
Zeous - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:19 am [ID# 1863499] false
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NEW: well if one is accused of plundering one may as well Boast about amirightt?! (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:21 am [ID# 1863501] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: Definitely. Unless too many handouts get scrapped, especially food. Starving, desperate people might not be too fun to deal with if they know who made a career plundering them. Let's hope your bosses don't make things tough on you that way, eh.
Zeous - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:31 am [ID# 1863502] false
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NEW: Peace through superior firepower. I have software that tells me which of my neighbors are pacifists and have two year supply of food. Let the pillaging and plundering begin ! (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:41 am [ID# 1863504] false
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Zeous icon
NEW: How very... Republican of you. (nm)
Zeous - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:43 am [ID# 1863505] false
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NEW: no I haven't been a republican since Reagan. Now I'm just a peckerhead with too many guns thst likes to shoot things (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:47 am [ID# 1863506] false
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Rocker Ute icon
NEW: This is my favorite kind of nonsense... (long)
Rocker Ute - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 09:25 am [ID# 1863531] false
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NEW: I'd urge you not to leave us with your pension and all that you contribute to our society, somehow I doubt that. You've made it pretty clear that you don't care for me and that's ok
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 10:56 am [ID# 1863577] false
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Rocker Ute icon
NEW: I care for you?! More than you'll never know.
Rocker Ute - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 04:42 pm [ID# 1863659] false
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o
NEW: you and AAU with your selfies smh (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 05:35 pm [ID# 1863679] false
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o
NEW: Let me answer with a question to clarify.
EighthDay - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:08 pm [ID# 1863435] false
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NEW: Nothing at all. The power/prestige is incentive enough. (nm)
Ute2004 - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:11 pm [ID# 1863437] false
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NEW: Are those the kind of people you want making your laws? (nm)
Duhwayne - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:32 pm [ID# 1863443] false
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NEW: Don't we already have those kind of people anyway? (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:43 pm [ID# 1863451] false
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NEW: Actually, don't you make it worse by cutting incentives? Stripping financial incentives to government service because they are allegedly incompetent guarantees they will be incompetent. It also incentivizes bribery. Self fulfilling prophecy.
Duhwayne - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:51 pm [ID# 1863468] false
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NEW: my issue is two fold. Voting themselves gold level coverage while they give their constituents that can't afford health care for whatever reason bare bones coverage. It's the hypocrisy that they exhibit
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:05 pm [ID# 1863473] false
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NEW: I share the outrage but as long as voter dumbly vote on party lines they have no reason to stop. It's fixable. (nm)
Duhwayne - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:02 am [ID# 1863493] false
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NEW: You get what you pay for
EighthDay - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:21 pm [ID# 1863455] false
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NEW: Huh? You get what you pay for? Doesn't the president get like $300,000 per year? People don't run for president for the money. Same with Utah State Legislatures. Don't they get like $15,000 a year? Again, they aren't doing it for the paycheck.
Ute2004 - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:25 pm [ID# 1863456] false
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NEW: How many job offers would you accept if there was no salary or commission?
EighthDay - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:01 pm [ID# 1863472] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: For what it is worth, the President has to buy his own food (although the chefs and waitstaff are federal employees). I believe he gets reimbursed for the cost of State Dinners, but he actually pays the grocery bill out of his salary. (nm)
Puget Ute - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:20 pm [ID# 1863478] false
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NEW: Utah's legislature is part time 45 days a year. They receive a daily stipend/salary
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:16 pm [ID# 1863440] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: They get paid $273/day, plus $100 stipend for lodging and $39 for food. THat is not a lot of pay for the time they put in, to be honest.
Puget Ute - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:33 pm [ID# 1863444] false
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Newbomb Turk icon
NEW: Chris Buttars "served" for exactly 10 years and then resigned. He was in it to be a pain in the ass and health care for life. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:41 pm [ID# 1863448] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: THe good news is he is now 74 and won't be around much longer, right?
Puget Ute - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:03 pm [ID# 1863454] false
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NEW: Because Jesus is Republican. (nm)
Ute2004 - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:26 pm [ID# 1863458] false
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Puget Ute icon
NEW: RE: Because Jesus is Republican.
Puget Ute - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 11:17 pm [ID# 1863476] false
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5Utes icon
NEW: Remember when Jesus went about taking homes and giving them to others, taking food and redistributing it? Yeah. I don't remember that part of the bible. (nm)
5Utes - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:12 am [ID# 1863497] false
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NEW: egads Jesus was reincarnated as the Goldman Sachs Guy that bought the bank and foreclosed on all those homes in California and made millions ! What's he doing now? Oh yeah he's a trump cabinet pick bet he goes to church every Sunday too (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 12:34 am [ID# 1863503] false
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TheJuggernaut icon
NEW: Most of Utah believes the worst guy with an (R) next to his name is still better than anybody with a (D) next to their name. (nm)
TheJuggernaut - Top 25 Poster -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:38 pm [ID# 1863461] false
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NEW: exactly. Only in Utah can a legislator stand up say he's resigning because he was in a compromising situation with an underage girl in a hot tub and get a standing ovation (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:48 pm [ID# 1863465] false
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NEW: Straight party ticket. He is bat guano crazy. (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:55 pm [ID# 1863470] false
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NEW: I am not necessarily in favor or against it for now, but I think to really discuss it you have to look closely at how much compensation they are getting w and w/o (long)
EighthDay - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 10:47 pm [ID# 1863464] false
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NEW: I agree with your points on incentive, but where is the line drawn?
cald22well - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 03:22 pm [ID# 1863637] false
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NEW: I can take care of myself, but everything is owned by someone else. It's the life I was born in to. If I don't like it I can become a criminal. (nm)
IrieUte - -- Sunday 22 January 2017, at 09:15 pm [ID# 1863439] false
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MinnesotaUte icon
NEW: It is a fundamental fact that politicians will feather their own nest first. Public Servant is a term they all use to justify their excess and put up a smoke screen, at end of the day, they are about keeping their job and making as much money (long)
MinnesotaUte - -- Monday 23 January 2017, at 06:08 am [ID# 1863511] false
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