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There are several reasons...

Posted By: Comrade Crimson
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 03:34 pm

First he's a $#!+ty indefensible hire, although I have to acknowledge that is directed at Dr. Hill. But I'll give you reasons.

1. We bitched about Boylens lack of experience and then hire a guy with less.

2. We need talent and hired a guy known as a bad/indifferent recruiter.

3. We need to recruit Pac 12 level talent and hire a guy who has been out of the game for five years, wasn't sought after while he was out.

4. His only qualification seems to be beating an overrated Nevada team five years ago and a 2nd place finish in the Big Sky, essentially the qualifications of Ray Giacolletti.

Then he shows up and for inexplicable reasons decides to blow up something when he didn't have to.

1. Larry probably doesn't save Clyburn but he doesn't even try. Although this is a minor point.

2. He blows off Sharp and O'Brien and make no mistake both were savable. If you keep Obrien, Glover, an athlete like Lee, we have a foundation. Instead he brings in bad JC's to replace bad JC's and our hopes for a year from now are a Eastern Washington PG and a guy from LSU who averaged 7 PPG that every school on our level passed on.

3. He is a blowhard about wanting guys to want Utah on their chest and then runs guys who actually want to stay.

4. He keeps talking $#!+ about Jim Boylen.

So he's a dick. He's made a point of us having even worse talent. He's losing recruiting battles to UNLV and Wichita St.

All I wanted was a clear upgrade from Jim Boylen and a guy who could recruit and take responsibility. And Larry isn't any of that.

Was that so much to ask?

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TheMightyAlaskanUte icon NEW: Dear Comrade Crimson, why are you NOT giving Larry K the courtesy of coaching ONE game before you bury him? Ive had enough. Lets go. (nm)
TheMightyAlaskanUte - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 02:58 pm [ID# 1224153] [reply]
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Texas_Ute_Fan icon NEW: Because that's just how he rolls. However, should Coach Krysto ever make it to the dance, Crim's ass will be super-glued to the bandwagon, even after it hits the ditch. (nm)
Texas_Ute_Fan - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:06 pm [ID# 1224155] [reply]
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The_Kaiser icon NEW: Time for a good old-fashioned catfight. Woof! (nm)
The_Kaiser - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:09 pm [ID# 1224157] [reply]
TheMightyAlaskanUte icon NEW: I just want an answer thats it. He spent 5 years badgering and bullying anyone who claimed that Giac or Boylen were bad coaches and now he has become them. The truth is
TheMightyAlaskanUte - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:12 pm [ID# 1224158] [reply]
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o NEW: I spent seven years saying we should support Ute coaches and no one did, I join that side and now we're supposed to support the coach. I don't understand. (nm)
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:35 pm [ID# 1224172] [reply]
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MussRaker icon NEW: The good Comrade was wrong about Giac and Boylen, so I'm just hoping his coach evaluation skills continue to suck. (nm)
MussRaker - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:39 pm [ID# 1224174] [reply]
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o NEW: Somehow I was a dick for supporting those two guys and now I'm a dick for not supporting Larry. (short)
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:42 pm [ID# 1224180] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: Well maybe your just a dick. (nm)
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:48 pm [ID# 1224187] [reply]
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o NEW: Probably, but I'd still like to know the rules. (nm)
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:49 pm [ID# 1224192] [reply]
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UtahUte72 icon NEW: Rules? Rules? We don't need no stinking rules! (nm)
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:56 pm [ID# 1224202] [reply]
MussRaker icon NEW: Don't pretend you don't know the rules.
MussRaker - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 04:00 pm [ID# 1224203] [reply]
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o NEW: Now I understand. (nm)
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 04:03 pm [ID# 1224207] [reply]
LA Ute icon NEW: Most here are not old enough to remember Joe Btfsplk....
LA Ute - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:26 pm [ID# 1224166] [reply]
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o NEW: There are several reasons...
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:34 pm [ID# 1224171] [reply]
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o NEW: I agree with all of this....also
Utexas - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:41 pm [ID# 1224177] [reply]
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LA Ute icon NEW: But you're reduced to simply harping on those points now. We all get it, bro, let's just see what happens. Or not. But the harping isn't accomplishing anything and besides, it's boring. Come back to the fold! We miss you! (nm)
LA Ute - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:42 pm [ID# 1224178] [reply]
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o NEW: And I had been mostly quiet, until Larry decides to Bash Boylen on Espn.com. (short)
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:44 pm [ID# 1224182] [reply]
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UBlender icon NEW: I'm not seeing what was so classless in what he said. That we want players that want to be here? Isn't that true of all teams at all levels? Doesn't every new coach always come in and say we're going to do things my way and if you're still...
UBlender - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 04:06 pm [ID# 1224210] [reply]
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o NEW: They should also maybe come in and give them a reason to stay...
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 04:11 pm [ID# 1224221] [reply]
UBlender icon NEW: I don't disagree that there are huge question marks about how we are building our personnel right now. But I don't see this being an attack on Boylen, just Larry summarizing why he has four returning players (from his point of view, right or wrong).
UBlender - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 04:14 pm [ID# 1224224] [reply]
o NEW: No I get a pass when someone is actully being classless
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 04:16 pm [ID# 1224226] [reply]
UBlender icon NEW: I'm pretty sure when Whit was hired he told players that if they were only here to play for Urban they were free to move on (see Ryan Smith). Coach Whit is classless....
UBlender - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 04:25 pm [ID# 1224230] [reply]
vUUdoo icon NEW: really, Krstko has less experience???
vUUdoo - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:42 pm [ID# 1224181] [reply]
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o NEW: He was a head coach for 2 years at Montana and for 12 minutes in the pro game...
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:45 pm [ID# 1224184] [reply]
FinanceUte icon NEW: You've chosen to take a negative stance to anything that coach K does, regardless of whether it's a positive move for our school, or not. Therein lies your problem... you've lost your objectivity...
FinanceUte - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:49 pm [ID# 1224191] [reply]
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o NEW: Tell me, what part of this was a positive move for our school? I'd really like to know. (nm)
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:50 pm [ID# 1224194] [reply]
FinanceUte icon NEW: Ha! LOL
FinanceUte - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 04:57 pm [ID# 1224264] [reply]
rbentz icon NEW: I would rather have a dick for a coach than one that ran the offensive system Boylen tried to run.
rbentz - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 04:23 pm [ID# 1224229] [reply]
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waterute icon NEW: Pure speculation all of it no valitidy to any of accusations you have made (nm)
waterute - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 04:29 pm [ID# 1224235] [reply]
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o NEW: And the biggest point of all, why didn't we just wait a year...
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:40 pm [ID# 1224176] [reply]
jhill icon NEW: WTF is this "wait another year" stuff? At what point do you nut up and accept the fact he sucks? 12 years? (nm)
jhill - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:44 pm [ID# 1224183] [reply]
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o NEW: So how long do we give Larry...
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:48 pm [ID# 1224189] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: 5 years seems to be the threshold.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:50 pm [ID# 1224195] [reply]
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o NEW: Holy Jesus, I agree with you. (nm)
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:52 pm [ID# 1224197] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: I can agree with the "we should have waited a year", but the fanbase wouldn't stand for it. (nm)
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:47 pm [ID# 1224185] [reply]
o NEW: What would they have done?
Comrade Crimson - -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:51 pm [ID# 1224196] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: At some point it becomes better to do something, even if it's wrong to at least look like you're trying.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 16 August 2011, at 03:55 pm [ID# 1224199] [reply]
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