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I could support the death tax, but on one condition

Posted By: MinnesotaUte
Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 at 06:42 am

The estate tax is taken, and used only for the sole purpose of Medicare and Social Security. Under those strict circumstances, I would support not just an estate tax, but a large one.

Here's my thought process:

There are a very large number of retired people out there living a very good life. They, my parents included, have amassed significant wealth through their life, and with the benefit of SS and Medicare, they are able to live like kings without eroding their life savings very much. In fact, they are able largely to just live off the earnings without spending much principal.

Good for them, however, with this system being headed for insolvency, it doesn't make sense not to address this issue. But if you do means testing, all you do is provide incentive to hide wealth and/or transfer it sooner in order to get in under the wire to qualify. That introduces a whole host of unintended consequences.

If you instead, do as I suggest, then A) they don't have to worry about it, since they are dead. B ) they know that it will go to maintain the system they benefited from. C) it will go to sustain the system for their heirs (just as it would had it been handed down albeit less directly).

Seems to me to be a fairly moral argument, and one that could be popular with almost every demographic.

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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: I could support the death tax, but on one condition
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 06:42 am [ID# 1319123] [reply]
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Crafty Ute icon NEW: Some people that are living the good life may be due to estate planning and fiscal conservation...in preparation for a major financial event (should one occur). Should the heirs to $$$ carry the burden of tax? (nm)
Crafty Ute - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 07:07 am [ID# 1319124] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: But the point is, that if we do nothing, these people are going to be means tested out of the system anyway.
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 08:58 am [ID# 1319162] [reply]
SD_UTE icon NEW: Personally I'd rather get the money straight from my parents than lose 50% of it funneled through government bureaucracy
SD_UTE - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 07:10 am [ID# 1319125] [reply]
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o NEW: The notion that it has been taxed before is ridiculous.
TexansUtes - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 07:38 am [ID# 1319133] [reply]
SD_UTE icon NEW: Apples and Oranges
SD_UTE - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 08:03 am [ID# 1319143] [reply]
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Maji Man icon NEW: investment tax is on gains (dividends and cap gains) not principal
Maji Man - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 09:04 am [ID# 1319167] [reply]
o NEW: tax by any other name is still tax
TexansUtes - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 09:06 am [ID# 1319168] [reply]
SportUTE icon NEW: You are confusing the taxation of consumption with income taxation
SportUTE - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 08:07 am [ID# 1319148] [reply]
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o NEW: tax is tax (nm)
TexansUtes - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 09:06 am [ID# 1319169] [reply]
scratch icon NEW: And that money will be taxed again when the kids spend it. (nm)
scratch - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 08:18 am [ID# 1319152] [reply]
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o NEW: Great, rational thoughts. (nm)
two utes - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 08:25 am [ID# 1319153] [reply]
SubstiUTE icon NEW: The first 5 Million is exempt from estate tax.
SubstiUTE - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 08:45 am [ID# 1319158] [reply]
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Maji Man icon NEW: there is a valid argument against the death tax in the case of the family farm
Maji Man - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 08:40 am [ID# 1319156] [reply]
MinnesotaUte icon NEW: See, that's what I hate. Oh, we need an exemption for the family farm. What about the family grocery store? What about the family vineyard?
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 08:56 am [ID# 1319161] [reply]
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o NEW: Family Walmart and family farm is no different. (nm)
EducatedUfan - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 09:54 am [ID# 1319208] [reply]
UTEopia icon NEW: With a 5 million dollar federal exemption and a little planning, most people should have no estate tax issues. I am surprised at how this issue always comes up in election years given how few people it really affects. If there is anyone on this
UTEopia - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 09:04 am [ID# 1319166] [reply]
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PrestitUTE icon NEW: I like a progressive scale in the death tax as well.
PrestitUTE - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:35 am [ID# 1319259] [reply]
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