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Midnight, I believe I used to know someone who belonged to your church

Posted By: Utah County Ute
Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 at 11:03 am

If memory serves me right your church originally broke away from the main body of the church due to this revelation that John W.Taylor said he saw of his father's. Is that correct? Please correct me if I am wrong.

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midnightversion icon NEW: I have one more question to any who are interested.
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:16 am [ID# 1319241] [reply]
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Crafty Ute icon NEW: It's all in the handshakes.... (nm)
Crafty Ute - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:20 am [ID# 1319246] [reply]
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Crimsonute icon NEW: Were they authorized by the church, or just renegade polygamists doing them on their own?
Crimsonute - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:23 am [ID# 1319248] [reply]
alUmnUs icon NEW: Well the Mormons of Utefans are for sure breaking the Word of Wisdom.....fat asses. (nm)
alUmnUs - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:30 am [ID# 1319254] [reply]
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midnightversion icon NEW: Somehow this information slipped through the cracks.....
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:34 am [ID# 1319257] [reply]
alUmnUs icon NEW: Just curious.....what do you think this suggests? (nm)
alUmnUs - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:49 am [ID# 1319271] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: It's one very small example of what I believe to be a post-Manifesto that was sanctioned by someone with the power to do so in the church.
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:54 am [ID# 1319275] [reply]
alUmnUs icon NEW: The record you cited is not a formal LDS church record. Data on the church's ancestral files can be compiled and submitted by anyone. For the most part they are collected and submitted by individuals who are compiling and researching their own (short)
alUmnUs - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:20 am [ID# 1319304] [reply]
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midnightversion icon NEW: They deleted my grandfather's birth, baptism, and sealing in the temple to his wife, after he left the LDS Church to join a group that was claiming to live the fullness of the Gospel.
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:29 am [ID# 1319315] [reply]
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alUmnUs icon NEW: Did he leave the LDS church or was he excommunicated? I think we may be talking about two different sets of records.
alUmnUs - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:45 am [ID# 1319344] [reply]
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Maji Man icon NEW: Some of them were General Authorities. (nm)
Maji Man - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:56 am [ID# 1319280] [reply]
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midnightversion icon NEW: RE: Some of them were General Authorities.
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:05 am [ID# 1319289] [reply]
alUmnUs icon NEW: To which individuals, in particular, would you be referring? If you're compiling research specific to your question I'd guess that you have specific names, dates, locations, ordinance workers, etc., from which to detail the circumstances and stories
alUmnUs - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:29 am [ID# 1319252] [reply]
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midnightversion icon NEW: I've compiled a startling amount of information on specific events detailing places, times and people involved.
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:36 am [ID# 1319260] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: RE: To which individuals, in particular, would you be referring? If you're compiling research specific to your question I'd guess that you have specific names, dates, locations, ordinance workers, etc., from which to detail the circumstances and sto
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:08 am [ID# 1319292] [reply]
alUmnUs icon NEW: The Manifesto was not a statement that abolished the doctrine of plural marriage.
alUmnUs - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:38 am [ID# 1319327] [reply]
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midnightversion icon NEW: Those keys are NOT held by the President of the Church.
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:44 am [ID# 1319340] [reply]
alUmnUs icon NEW: The key to seal is held by the Prophet. (nm)
alUmnUs - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 12:16 pm [ID# 1319366] [reply]
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We will rock U icon NEW: RE: I have one more question to any who are interested.
We will rock U - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:34 am [ID# 1319256] [reply]
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midnightversion icon NEW: It's my opinion that what happened to John W. Taylor and why hasn't been completely presented to the masses.
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:40 am [ID# 1319263] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: If the Church didn't sanction them why are they recorded in their church owned and operated genealogy site? (nm)
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:41 am [ID# 1319266] [reply]
alUmnUs icon NEW: Because they are actual family histories. (nm)
alUmnUs - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:53 am [ID# 1319274] [reply]
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We will rock U icon NEW: ^^ this ^^, IMO (nm)
We will rock U - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:56 am [ID# 1319279] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: B.H. Roberts' own words concerning post-Manifesto plural marriages.
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:02 am [ID# 1319284] [reply]
alUmnUs icon NEW: So in other words, there were people who refused to adhere to the counsel of WW? (nm)
alUmnUs - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:16 am [ID# 1319300] [reply]
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scratch icon NEW: Is it a surprise to you that high-ranking LDS church leaders sin? (nm)
scratch - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:43 am [ID# 1319337] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: No. I'm merely saying that, in this instance, it wasn't a sin. (nm)
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:51 am [ID# 1319348] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: Matthias Cowley testified in a 1911 trial that.....
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:49 am [ID# 1319270] [reply]
We will rock U icon NEW: I think it is very clear that plural marriage - its purposes, practices, etc are misunderstood by many.
We will rock U - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:10 am [ID# 1319294] [reply]
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o NEW: I've always wonder how a manifeso can override an "eternal commandment"? (nm)
Flyer - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:40 am [ID# 1319265] [reply]
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FountainofUte icon NEW: I don't think "override" is the right word. Perhaps "ammend"?
FountainofUte - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:04 am [ID# 1319287] [reply]
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o NEW: So God makes amendments now? Commandment 1 and commandment 1a? (nm)
Flyer - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:08 am [ID# 1319291] [reply]
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FountainofUte icon NEW: It's not the perfect example, but essentially, yeah.
FountainofUte - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:35 am [ID# 1319324] [reply]
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Utah County Ute icon NEW: Ever watch a dog chase its tail?
Utah County Ute - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:54 am [ID# 1319276] [reply]
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o NEW: midnight, I like you and respect your right to believe as your conscience desires. I also think that polygamy was a terrible, tragic mistake the scars from which remain all over the church psyche. I'm glad it stopped. I wish it never happened. (nm)
Duhwayne - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 10:56 am [ID# 1319278] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: Are you LDS?
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:11 am [ID# 1319295] [reply]
o NEW: Not sure which of the many positions are the real ones?
Flyer - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:15 am [ID# 1319299] [reply]
o NEW: Ethnically, yes, I am a Mormon. I also married a devout LDS woman and am supportive of her. As for me personally, I am not sure what my category should be and don't much care. I consult my conscience and God without need of an intermediary.
Duhwayne - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:30 am [ID# 1319316] [reply]
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DC Ute icon NEW: D. Michael Quinn wrote a good article on this topic in the Spring 1985 issue of Dialogue. (nm)
DC Ute - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:00 am [ID# 1319282] [reply]
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Utah County Ute icon NEW: Midnight, I believe I used to know someone who belonged to your church
Utah County Ute - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:03 am [ID# 1319286] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: Tough to say. There are so many offshoots. (nm)
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:05 am [ID# 1319288] [reply]
Utah County Ute icon NEW: Ahhhh I see. So why so many off shoots? What was the reason for your congregations "off shoot"?
Utah County Ute - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:09 am [ID# 1319293] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: I'm not with the AUB group, so no.
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:13 am [ID# 1319296] [reply]
Utah County Ute icon NEW: Interesting. Ok must be a different group.
Utah County Ute - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:18 am [ID# 1319302] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: John Taylor ordained and set apart a group of men in 1886 to continue and maintain the fullness of the Gospel. (nm)
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:25 am [ID# 1319308] [reply]
Utah County Ute icon NEW: This being the Wooley's and George Q. Cannon? (nm)
Utah County Ute - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:28 am [ID# 1319311] [reply]
We will rock U icon NEW: yep (nm)
We will rock U - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:31 am [ID# 1319318] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: Wrong. George Q. Cannon was never set apart on that day with that group of men in 1886. (nm)
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:37 am [ID# 1319325] [reply]
midnightversion icon NEW: Okay, my opinion:
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:34 am [ID# 1319322] [reply]
Utah County Ute icon NEW: So once John Taylor ordained the Wooley's and Cannon to carry on plural marriage he lost the priesthood?
Utah County Ute - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:41 am [ID# 1319335] [reply]
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midnightversion icon NEW: When John Taylor ordained that group of men, of which Cannon was never a part, he didn't lose his priesthood.
midnightversion - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 11:46 am [ID# 1319345] [reply]
Utah County Ute icon NEW: please explain how they lost the priesthood?
Utah County Ute - -- Tuesday 31 January 2012, at 12:02 pm [ID# 1319359] [reply]
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