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Which is why what Obama is doing is unsustainable in this country. There is absolutely no way to support the entitlements that he wants.

Posted By: GarthUte
Date: Monday, February 20, 2012 at 08:14 pm

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UofUSportsGuy icon NEW: It's cute how the folks on the right think they're going to win the presidency by debating gas prices.. (nm)
UofUSportsGuy - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:04 pm [ID# 1327970] [reply]
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o NEW: Do you still blame Bush for the high gas prices? (nm)
stampadres - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:17 pm [ID# 1327973] [reply]
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UofUSportsGuy icon NEW: Actually yes. Instead of fighting two useless wars, we could have invested a fraction of that amount into 'clean energy' programs, and who knows, gas prices may have likely been a thing of the past... (nm)
UofUSportsGuy - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:28 pm [ID# 1327974] [reply]
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GarthUte icon NEW: When Obama took office, the price of gas was about two bucks a gallon. Now prices are much higher and rising. How the hell is that not Obama's fault, especially when he continued those wars and implemented idiotic green energy policies? (nm)
GarthUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:33 pm [ID# 1327977] [reply]
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UofUSportsGuy icon NEW: This is exactly my point Garth. It really doesn't matter. Obama popped Bin Laden and has created 3 million jobs. His second term is no longer in question. (nm)
UofUSportsGuy - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:37 pm [ID# 1327985] [reply]
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GarthUte icon NEW: Unemployment is higher today than it was when Obama took office. Where are these alleged 3 million jobs? (nm)
GarthUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:58 pm [ID# 1328001] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: I am still waiting for Socialist work camps and my guns to be taken away? I guess he is too busy manipulating gas prices. (nm)
SforkUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:39 pm [ID# 1327986] [reply]
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UofUSportsGuy icon NEW: You forgot about forcing all religious institutions to allow gay marriage.... (nm)
UofUSportsGuy - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:41 pm [ID# 1327988] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: Oh that was a good one....how can I forget? I mean- his policy isn't based on Santorum's bible! Outrage!!! (nm)
SforkUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:44 pm [ID# 1327991] [reply]
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o NEW: seperation of church and state only when it benefits you? smh (nm)
TexansUtes - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:46 pm [ID# 1327992] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: I want it separate- Santorum's claim that his policy isn't based on Bible principles is just another example of how delusional Santorum is. (nm)
SforkUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:49 pm [ID# 1327996] [reply]
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o NEW: if you want it separate then how can you argue to make churches support Gay Marriage or Abortion if that is not what they believe?
TexansUtes - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:52 pm [ID# 1327998] [reply]
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UofUSportsGuy icon NEW: Are you saying that if a church allowed slavery, then it would be mandatory that the country sit ideally by while slavery was practiced in said church? (nm)
UofUSportsGuy - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:56 pm [ID# 1328000] [reply]
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o NEW: slavery is bad and so is murder of a child (short)
TexansUtes - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:59 pm [ID# 1328004] [reply]
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scratch icon NEW: Yeah, because forcing a church to do something is the same as allowing a church to enslave people. Regardless which side you're on that was about the most absurd comparison I've ever seen. (nm)
scratch - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:02 pm [ID# 1328008] [reply]
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UofUSportsGuy icon NEW: What if a church allowed under age girls to marry older men (hi FLDS!!).. the point is, sometimes morality transcends religion....And people's perception of morality will vary.. (nm)
UofUSportsGuy - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:59 pm [ID# 1328002] [reply]
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o NEW: do you actually think before you post?
TexansUtes - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:00 pm [ID# 1328006] [reply]
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UofUSportsGuy icon NEW: I know... i tend to write at a college edumacated level (i.e. i expect ppl to think about my statements)... I drop it down to elementary level next time you're around... (nm)
UofUSportsGuy - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:03 pm [ID# 1328010] [reply]
o NEW: Obviously you aren't as educated as you thought.
TexansUtes - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:05 pm [ID# 1328014] [reply]
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scratch icon NEW: Trust me, you don't want people to think about these statements, regardless of which side they're on, because the more they think about them the less they will think of you. (nm)
scratch - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:06 pm [ID# 1328016] [reply]
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scratch icon NEW: Again, forcing a church to do something is just slightly different than forcing a church to do something. The proper comparison would be forcing a church to allow men to marry young girls. I honestly can't believe this argument is being made. It's (short)
scratch - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:04 pm [ID# 1328012] [reply]
o NEW: It is good to know that 3 years later and Dems not needing a single Republican vote for 2/3rd's of Obama's presidency can still blame Bush for America falling apart. (nm)
stampadres - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:35 pm [ID# 1327981] [reply]
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o NEW: RE: Do you still blame Bush for the high gas prices?
Azpikeute - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:34 pm [ID# 1327979] [reply]
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REDrumU icon NEW: *sigh* Yes, but only to the extent that I blame the GOP for allowing deregulation and speculation. BTW, this is the real cause behind high gas prices.
REDrumU - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:48 pm [ID# 1327994] [reply]
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UofUSportsGuy icon NEW: ding...ding...ding... (nm)
UofUSportsGuy - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:53 pm [ID# 1327999] [reply]
o NEW: yet in almost 4 years Obama has done nothing to stop it.
TexansUtes - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:09 pm [ID# 1328020] [reply]
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REDrumU icon NEW: Here's the squirrel again. I blame both of the major parties, but I've at least seen the majority of dems try to regulate it (and who controls congress right now?). But that brings up another point.
REDrumU - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:16 pm [ID# 1328024] [reply]
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GarthUte icon NEW: You really can't point at the GOP for that when Obama had a majority of Dems in both the House and Senate, yet failed to get anything done other than that disastrous Obamacare. (nm)
GarthUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:19 pm [ID# 1328026] [reply]
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REDrumU icon NEW: I won't speak to healthcare because it's an overall + in my book, though I have problems with certain provisions. There is some credence to your statement.
REDrumU - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:39 pm [ID# 1328044] [reply]
o NEW: RE: You really can't point at the GOP for that when Obama had a majority of Dems in both the House and Senate, yet failed to get anything done other than that disastrous Obamacare.
Azpikeute - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 09:00 pm [ID# 1328052] [reply]
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o NEW: So when you run Congress, Senate and Presidency for 2 years and use all your capital to pass healthcare
TexansUtes - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:23 pm [ID# 1328028] [reply]
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REDrumU icon NEW: And this is where we stop talking because you won't even listen, nor have you even read reference material on the subject. I am independent, and it doesn't even matter. What does matter is that, I hear the talking points on both sides and I'll say
REDrumU - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:31 pm [ID# 1328035] [reply]
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o NEW: see you are once again way off base
TexansUtes - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:38 pm [ID# 1328043] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: That is all they have to cling to- the reality of 4 more years is sinking in for them. (nm)
SforkUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:30 pm [ID# 1327975] [reply]
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GarthUte icon NEW: It's cute how folks on the left think Obama isn't going to destroy this country if he's given a 2nd term. (nm)
GarthUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:31 pm [ID# 1327976] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: I must be really cute then...... (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:34 pm [ID# 1327980] [reply]
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HoopUte icon NEW: Well, you are and you aren't, if that makes sense. (nm)
HoopUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:28 pm [ID# 1328032] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Unfortunately, it makes complete sense. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:31 pm [ID# 1328037] [reply]
SforkUte icon NEW: And I am still waiting for those that think this to give concrete evidence that it will be ruined. Time to stop being paranoid..... (nm)
SforkUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:37 pm [ID# 1327984] [reply]
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Virginia Ute icon NEW: He may or may not destroy the country, but the fact of the matter is that I personally stand to lose a lot of money by his policies. (short)
Virginia Ute - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 07:59 pm [ID# 1328003] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: And yet I have more money because of his policies...I guess that is what makes America so great. (nm)
SforkUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:03 pm [ID# 1328009] [reply]
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Virginia Ute icon NEW: No, that is what's wrong with it. You can be happy with the redistribution of wealth, but that doesn't make it right. (nm)
Virginia Ute - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:04 pm [ID# 1328011] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: I thought it came down to the fact that me and mine are better off or not now than I/we were 4 years ago? If so "yes" I/we are...and I think I/we will be even better in 4 more years. (nm)
SforkUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:08 pm [ID# 1328019] [reply]
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Virginia Ute icon NEW: We me/mine aren't benefitting as much as you/yours so I/me will not be voting for Obama/Biden. Did that make sense? (nm)
Virginia Ute - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:14 pm [ID# 1328023] [reply]
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GarthUte icon NEW: You want evidence that it will be ruined? Look at the economy then look at Greece. That's where we're headed. (nm)
GarthUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:01 pm [ID# 1328007] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: Unemployment improving, stock market near record highs, auto industry saved.......do I need to go on? (nm)
SforkUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:04 pm [ID# 1328013] [reply]
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o NEW: all bought and paid for with your grandchildrens future. Praise Obama/Bush (nm)
TexansUtes - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:11 pm [ID# 1328021] [reply]
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GarthUte icon NEW: National debt increased $4.5 trillion dollars in 3 years....
GarthUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:18 pm [ID# 1328025] [reply]
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GarthUte icon NEW: Also, unemployment isn't improving. It's still higher than when Obama took office. (nm)
GarthUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:23 pm [ID# 1328029] [reply]
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HoopUte icon NEW: Please explain this chart for me then.
HoopUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:36 pm [ID# 1328041] [reply]
Virginia Ute icon NEW: It is still worse than when Obama came into office. (nm)
Virginia Ute - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:45 pm [ID# 1328048] [reply]
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HoopUte icon NEW: I look at that chart and it starts down within 11 months of his taking office.
HoopUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:48 pm [ID# 1328049] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: By God, you're right. It was 7.8% in January 2009 and is 8.3% now. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:48 pm [ID# 1328050] [reply]
HoopUte icon NEW: Also interesting to look at the highest and lowest numbers in the last 40 years.
HoopUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:56 pm [ID# 1328051] [reply]
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Virginia Ute icon NEW: Yeah, those stimulus jobs are great, but the cost of maintaining them is unsustainable.
Virginia Ute - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 09:03 pm [ID# 1328053] [reply]
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HoopUte icon NEW: Nice way to defer from the data
HoopUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 09:08 pm [ID# 1328055] [reply]
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Virginia Ute icon NEW: So because I'm paying some now I should be ok with paying a bigger portion in the future?
Virginia Ute - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 09:14 pm [ID# 1328056] [reply]
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HoopUte icon NEW: Open MY eyes? I'm far more objective than you are.
HoopUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 09:18 pm [ID# 1328057] [reply]
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Virginia Ute icon NEW: Yeah, you are completely objective I'm sure and there wasn't a bit of condescension or arrogance in any of your posts at all (eye roll emoticon I don't know how to make). (nm)
Virginia Ute - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 09:23 pm [ID# 1328063] [reply]
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HoopUte icon NEW: Show me the error in the data or save it.
HoopUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 09:25 pm [ID# 1328065] [reply]
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Virginia Ute icon NEW: The ONLY thing I've said about the data was that unemployment was higher now than in was when Obama took office...I was more just trying to be a smartass rather than prove a point.
Virginia Ute - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 09:36 pm [ID# 1328075] [reply]
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UofUSportsGuy icon NEW: Oh, yes... Greece... the country with the size of an economy that's the size of rhode island... (nm)
UofUSportsGuy - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:08 pm [ID# 1328018] [reply]
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GarthUte icon NEW: Which is why what Obama is doing is unsustainable in this country. There is absolutely no way to support the entitlements that he wants.
GarthUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:14 pm [ID# 1328022] [reply]
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HoopUte icon NEW: Comparing the Greek entitlement issues with the US is pretty weak
HoopUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:41 pm [ID# 1328046] [reply]
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PDXUtefan icon NEW: It's cute how your sheer hate for Obama prevents you from making even logical comments about the current political situation anymore. Actually it's more annoying than anything.
PDXUtefan - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:00 pm [ID# 1328005] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: Winner, winner chicken dinner! ^ (nm)
SforkUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:06 pm [ID# 1328015] [reply]
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GarthUte icon NEW: It's cute how you close your eyes to what's happening then when evidence is presented, you get upset and try to blame others for you're inability to see what's happening.
GarthUte - -- Tuesday 21 February 2012, at 08:15 am [ID# 1328121] [reply]
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HoopUte icon NEW: It's sad how some people think a system of government that's been in place for over 220 years is so weak as to have that happen
HoopUte - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:30 pm [ID# 1328033] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: RE: It's cute how the folks on the right think they're going to win the presidency by debating gas prices..<while advocating a preemptive war with Iran> (nm)
pangloss - -- Monday 20 February 2012, at 08:07 pm [ID# 1328017] [reply]
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