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I kinda sorta agree.

Posted By: Rutebega
Date: Monday, May 7, 2012 at 01:25 pm

I completely agree with you that it isn't the easy decision most make it out to be. I voted for Obama 4 years ago but I am very torn.

For me, it comes down to a very simple point, how selfish do I want to be?

I believe Romney is the best solution for the economy. I think he understands the economy and finances better than almost any president or candidate we have had. He did an excellent job with the Olympics, and knows how to run a business better than anyone. Obama is a lawyer/politician, and doesn't understand the economy at all. He represents the public sector, which isn't business friendly. If I want to vote for the person who will make my life better over the next four years, I would vote for Romney, because the economy will be more prosperous and my taxes will be lower.


The republicans in my opinion have gone off the deep end on morals. They are without a doubt regressing from where things were 10 years ago. Remember that George W. Bush passed the dream act, which gave illegal immigrants the right to become citizens if they served in the army or got a college diploma. Those sound like the kind of citizens I would want, hard working, patriotic, educated Americans. Of course the republicans vetoed it. Reagan even gave illegals amnesty.
The republicans have gone back to the middle ages on immigration, gay-rights, and freedom of speech. In Alabama they have a policy of "self-deportation". Basically that means you treat Mexican-looking people like crap, so that they are so miserable they want to leave. Really? Is that what Jesus would do? Or if you are non-religious, is that what the founding fathers would support? You don't let tan skinned people in the super market buy anything without showing you their papers?
It is also interesting to note the enemy of my enemy relationship with the LDS church and republicans. 80% of Mormons are republicans, yet the republican base has shown more intolerance and hatred of Mormons than any group other than Muslims. It is abominable that Rick Perry's pastor said that Mormons are godless and a cult, yet Perry didn't even have to disagree with those statements.

If I did what my conscious told me, I would vote for Obama, just so I don't have to support the anti-muslim, anti-hispanic, anti-gay crowd that makes up the republican base. I'm not talking about good guys like GarthUte or George Will, I like that kind of republican and would classify myself as such. I'm talking about the Sarah Palin type, which is white-trash, protestant, uneducated, meth-addicted. They are moralists, yet have just as many affairs or gay affairs as anyone else.

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Proud2BaUte icon NEW: Presidential Politics
Proud2BaUte - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 12:21 pm [ID# 1356185] [reply]
o NEW: I really haven't been able to tell difference between Bush and Obama so I say why not four more years?
EducatedUfan - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 12:28 pm [ID# 1356191] [reply]
o NEW: Supreme court. That's why.
311polo - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 02:23 pm [ID# 1356255] [reply]
thirtyfour-thirtyone icon NEW: Yeah, I heard they might even allow women, homosexuals and minorities to have the same rights and privileges and middle-class white men. Oh, the humanity... (nm)
thirtyfour-thirtyone - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 02:36 pm [ID# 1356264] [reply]
SeaTacUte icon NEW: Get outside of the ultra-conservative state of Utah and you'll find plenty of people who will be voting for Obama.
SeaTacUte - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 12:29 pm [ID# 1356192] [reply]
o NEW: I believe that it was the old Soviet guard (for all that that is now) had an appropriate idiom.
Flyer - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 12:37 pm [ID# 1356193] [reply]
Virginia Ute icon NEW: I agree. There are a decent amount of people who will benefit from another Obama term, and I can't blame them for voting for him. Not me, though. (nm)
Virginia Ute - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 12:39 pm [ID# 1356194] [reply]
o NEW: I will be voting for a Republican for the first time in my life this fall. There is no way Romney or anyone could be crappier than Obama. (nm)
stampadres - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 12:46 pm [ID# 1356199] [reply]
o NEW: I would have voted for Obama over Michele Bachmann. But that is it. (nm)
stampadres - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:01 pm [ID# 1356206] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: I would have had a difficult time voting for either Santorum or Gingrich.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:46 pm [ID# 1356230] [reply]
New York icon NEW: RE: Presidential Politics
New York - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 12:50 pm [ID# 1356201] [reply]
Buzz Potez icon NEW: That, my friends, is some deep political analysis. (nm)
Buzz Potez - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:17 pm [ID# 1356213] [reply]
o NEW: I am a dyed in the wool independent fence sitter....
BaldHatu - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 12:52 pm [ID# 1356202] [reply]
cbute icon NEW: Sixty years from now, history will not be kind to Pres. Obama--if his term were to end today that is. (nm)
cbute - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:08 pm [ID# 1356210] [reply]
o NEW: Which, to me, is unfortunate.... He had a golden opportunity.
BaldHatu - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:48 pm [ID# 1356231] [reply]
Buzz Potez icon NEW: You lost me at the part where you were reading about politics in the DNews. (nm)
Buzz Potez - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:15 pm [ID# 1356211] [reply]
o NEW: I kinda sorta agree.
Rutebega - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:25 pm [ID# 1356214] [reply]
o NEW: But Romney could change the demographics of the GOP
311polo - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:46 pm [ID# 1356228] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: Something I would like to see from Romney
pangloss - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:36 pm [ID# 1356219] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: Oh, and asking for someone who supports Pres. Obama among the readers of the Deseret News is like asking for Utah fans on the Provostan campus. They may exist, but they few, far between, and keeping their heads down. (nm)
pangloss - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:40 pm [ID# 1356222] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: I really hope that whoever gets in there is some middle ground that can be found for agreement.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:49 pm [ID# 1356233] [reply]
o NEW: In Massachusettes Mitt showed he can work across the aisle and get things done.
311polo - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:56 pm [ID# 1356237] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: I was really upset with how Obama handled healthcare, particularly when he had a compromise to be had.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 02:00 pm [ID# 1356242] [reply]
o NEW: Let's be honest, this same charge can be laid at Obama's feet. Ridiculous and extreme comments are always made from the left, but no one bats an eye. (nm)
311polo - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:48 pm [ID# 1356232] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: Like Biden saying Romney wouldn't have OKd the raid on Bin Laden.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:57 pm [ID# 1356239] [reply]
o NEW: I think both sides screwed the pooch on the Bin Laden issue.
311polo - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 02:21 pm [ID# 1356254] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: That's why I think it's wise for Mitt to stay out of the debate and let the outrage come from the military community.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 02:33 pm [ID# 1356262] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: Taking your post out of context, I agree that "Romney wouldn't have OKd the raid" (loong)
pangloss - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 03:05 pm [ID# 1356274] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: Nice job of Obama spin control.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 03:18 pm [ID# 1356283] [reply]
cbute icon NEW: I don't see how Romney changed his stance there. Maybe I'm just not liberal enough to read a change into what he said. (nm)
cbute - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 03:20 pm [ID# 1356286] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: I left out one of his quotes,
pangloss - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 03:36 pm [ID# 1356297] [reply]
cbute icon NEW: I have no problem with Obama taking credit for the decision, but I don't like that it seems like he is trying to take credit for the whole capture and killing. (nm)
cbute - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 06:16 pm [ID# 1356357] [reply]
o NEW: He said the same thing in both quotes, smh (short)
TexansUtes - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 03:24 pm [ID# 1356288] [reply]
rbentz icon NEW: Ding ding ding!!! Red star for you. (nm)
rbentz - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 02:10 pm [ID# 1356245] [reply]
o NEW: obama may not have been born in america
coolcoug - -- Monday 7 May 2012, at 01:43 pm [ID# 1356225] [reply]
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