Alright, I just checked and the Utes need 7 more points to not tie the record set by St. Louis for fewest points by a team in the shot clock era.

by East Coast Bias 2012-03-03 17:09:19

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?secti on=ncb&id=3191119

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If I knew the coaches were recruiting my position, had no scholly next year, and had nothing left to play for I would be losing 30-2 as well. Thank you guys for filling a roster spot this year and giving us fans moments this season.

by East Coast Bias 2012-03-03 16:31:14

I am actually surprised how little I care.

As long as they don't break St. Louis' record for lowest score in a game I really don't care if these guys want to go out like chumps.

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It seems like BYU to the Big 12 is like Romney to the Republican Party. The Big 12 is parading everyone else as a potential expansion candidate to avoid inviting BYU with the inevitability that they may eventually have no choice but to invite them.

by East Coast Bias 2012-02-14 14:47:55

I know that the general consensus several months ago was to look east. Louisville is a definite as #11 if the conference goes to 12. South Florida had its moment as a candidate, then it was Cincinnati, with the latest being Rutgers.

All signs point to the majority of the Big 12 wanting to not look at BYU to fill a conference slot, but I am starting to get a sense that an invitation for them may become inevitable. The longer this thing drags out the more likely the conference resigns themselves to the zoobs.

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Off topic: Anyone know anything about the Boulder, Colorado area and the best place to live in the area (ie., Boulder, Louisville, Broomfield, etc.)?

by East Coast Bias 2012-02-10 17:10:52

Interested in where folks would want to live if you were LDS, had three kids (spread out over elementary and middle schools) , and were looking in the $400,000-$500,000 price range for houses.

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When you ALWAYS blame any loss on the refs its hard to take you seriously if you actually do have a game where the officials are less than stellar.

by East Coast Bias 2012-01-29 15:18:13

Of course allowing the opponent to shoot 55%, and only hitting 2 out of 13 three point shots won't help your cause for winning the game either.

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Not to ruin the mood, but Utah is right now on pace to score the fewest points in a basketball game during the shot clock era. Down 27-11 at half time. Record is 20 points...

by East Coast Bias 2011-12-31 16:54:29

which was kind of ironically set by Rick Majerus coached St. Louis team in 2008.

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Look for schools like BYU and Boise State to get paraded around as the Big 12's new flavor just to get WVU and Louisville to act NOW.

by East Coast Bias 2011-10-17 20:45:07

No small coincidence info is leaked to Chip Brown and Greg Swaim today about BYU and Boise State. Two thing occurred today: (1) The news that the Big East is going to require everyone to vote on raising exit fees and (2) Missouri to the SEC is imminent. Look at the history of how the Big 12 negotiates.

I do not have any information on BYU's interest in joining the league. Just still hearing that they are not choice #1, or #2. They may sneak in on the latest expansion IF Missouri leaves and they concede on BYUtv and make other major concessions (not Sunday play though).

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Looks like the original Big 12 expansion plan may be coming together.

by East Coast Bias 2011-10-06 11:27:45

Anyone interested in the Big 12 expansion and how it relates to BYU may want to take another look at this thread.

http://utefans.net/message.php?id=1246577

I'll admit that as time passed I'll admit that I started to doubt my own source and the information Chip Brown was reporting since things started to seemingly change by the day over the last couple of weeks. (Reading the comments by the Utah media over and over on twitter will start to desensitize you over time--lesson learned) (I had also considered the possibility that Beebe leaving was a game changer for the Big 12's expansion plans)

Seems like my source and Chip Brown were both spot on with respect to conference expansion.

It looks like BYU's only chance now might be if Missouri leaves the Big 12 for the SEC. Outside of that I would assume Louisville and West Virginia are the top expansion targets either now, or in the near future.

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John Wilner says it all in his recent tweet about how BYU wants to join the Big 12 just to keep up with Big Brother Utah and the Pac 12

by East Coast Bias 2011-10-04 20:47:58

First rushing the field against Utah State and then publicly admitting this...

http://twitter.com/#!/wilnerhotline

Scoreboard and then some

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Think about this for a second, because of the LHN Texas may be giving up Stanford and Cal as academic colleagues for the likes of Boise State and Louisville. Because of the LHN they will be giving up trips to Arizona State, Los Angeles,...

by East Coast Bias 2011-09-28 05:46:03

...Salt Lake City, San Francisco for the likes of Boise, Morgantown, and Provo.

I'm sorry, but something doesn't compute Texas. Have fun in that piecemeal of a conference.

Pac 12 >>>>>>>> Whatever they can throw together in the midwest.

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Question: Is the general consensus with the Utah local media that BYU is a lock for a Big 12 invite? Cause, that is not what I am hearing and I trust my sources...

by East Coast Bias 2011-09-22 18:42:47

I am hearing that they were the favorite weeks ago, but that over the last couple of days more attractive candidates out of the east have emerged.

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Several folks, including Mark Gottfried himself, have confirmed that the NC State Basketball coach will be jumping out of a plane and on to the field during the next football home game.

by East Coast Bias 2011-09-12 21:15:49

If this really happens I am going to seriously regret Utah passing on this guy as a coach. That is as bada$$ as it gets. Hands down the craziest thing I have ever heard a coach do, but I bet recruits will be all over it.

Seriously, Coach K...the BAR HAS BEEN RAISED

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I don't want to keep bringing up Gottfried posts on this board; however, I did find it interesting that several knowledgeable people, including some of his friends in the coaching community...

by East Coast Bias 2011-04-06 15:55:17

have been on talk radio in Raleigh yesterday and today discussing the fact that his three glaring weaknesses were (1) His teams struggled to win on the road, (2) His teams played very poor defense, and (3) He hated to recruit. (the last one surprised me a little, but everyone is saying it. In fact, Gottfried apparently was the one championing getting rid of the April signing period)

So much for the thought he was a tireless recruiter. In fact, I think hiring a guy with weaknesses in all three of those areas would have driven our fanbase, particularly those who frequent this board, absolutely insane over time.

In fact the more I hear about Gottfried, the happier I get that we went the direction of Krystkowiak.

Dr. Hill may know what he is doing afterall.

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For the record, NC State first contacted Gottfried late last night so there was no overlap with Utah search. He met for the first time today. Also, the press conference ROCKED today, but not because of Gottfried. Debbie Yow calling out...

by East Coast Bias 2011-04-05 16:33:35

Gary Williams for ruining the NC State coaching search while in Houston was GOLD! Forget the rivalry with UNC and Duke. Its all Wolfpack - Terrapins for the immediate future.

Finally, both Yow and Gottfried acknowledged that they are finalizing things on what they would describe as an excellent group of assistants.

And with that I am done and will take any further comments to an NC State message board.

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Go ahead and criticize NC State's delusional fans all you want, but I wish our AD did something like this during the coaching search.

by East Coast Bias 2011-04-04 19:45:57

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/story/9 385453/

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I want to publicly apologize to Coach Krystkowiak for my knee jerk reaction to the hire on Sunday. I am 100% behind the guy as coach, and I am happy to have someone who wants to be a Ute.

by East Coast Bias 2011-04-04 15:16:08

For some reason there was something about today's press conference that leads me to believe he will be successful.

I can't wait to see him get to work.

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Three things that worry me: (1) We "settle" for assistants after striking out on all possibilities that would make this hire tolerable, (2) Our best players leave or don't come now (Matthews), (3) Hill has no intention of staying with the program...

by East Coast Bias 2011-04-03 13:27:39

...over the next four years leaving this mess for someone else to fix. (He has come somewhat close to leaving before)

Come November I will probably be excited about Utah basketball again and I hope that things fall into place to give me and other optimism. If not, well...the games in the Pac12 will start too late for me anyways.

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Bring Wojo and his floor slap to Utah! One thing the NCAA tournament has show us is that a young, unproven assistant can take over a program with the right attitude and energy and become that coach everyone wants.

by East Coast Bias 2011-04-02 12:48:00

Give me a guy hungry for the job and wants to be at Utah over an experienced coach who may or may not have the same drive they once had that made them a name in the first place.

Wojo could be our next Miller, Painter, Stevens or Shaka!

And worse case he becomes so successful that he is the man who one day replaces Coach K. I could live with that.

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Stop what you are doing and do yourself a favor and read this story about Matt Painter and Purdue. Trust me.

by East Coast Bias 2011-03-30 19:46:02

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/AmvLud/www. midwestsportsfans.com/2011/03/photo-story- starring-matt-painter-brad-stevens-ever-fa ithful-ever-two/

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So what does this mean? Why does Randy Bennett continue to deny he even interviewed for the Utah job when EVERYONE (something we can agree on) is reporting differently?

by East Coast Bias 2011-03-24 21:11:39

http://www.contracostatimes.com/college-s ports/ci_17694502?nclick_check=&nclick_ch e ck=1

I'm trying to figure out what that means in the scheme of things.

Is he just working through his agent? Or is he posturing to deflect attention for a reason.

By the way, this is not meant as a continuation of the previous threads commenting on JazzyUte's credibility or sources. He boardmailed me in private and defended himself well. I believe his sources to be valid. (Prematurely posting information that could be potentially damaging to the program is another topic for another time, but he has his right to do it and that is just a difference of opinion)

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Looking at UNLV and now San Diego State struggling against ok but not good competition, I would have a real sinking feeling if I was a BYU fan right now.

by East Coast Bias 2011-03-19 18:07:21

The MWC appears to be what we thought they were.

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Sancho, safe to say you made your point. Now move on...

by East Coast Bias 2011-03-16 08:54:01

If you can't even begin to see the positives of a potential Randy Bennett hire then I can't help you and its time for you to stop posting. Stop trying to bum out the board for what could be a really good hire.

Look at his last five years at St. Mary's. At St. "freaking" Mary's. Pretty impressive given the circumstances.

Throw out the first five years because that was his on-the-job training. Looking at his latter years and his resume is VERY impressive.

Combine that with his Australian pipeline and that translates well for Utah.

Is he perfect? No. But you have to at least admit that we could do much, much worse as a program.

And quite frankly, I am very excited at his potential and prospects of longevity at Utah.

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Thanks to the whole Brandon Davies thing (funny how he is now more popular nationally than Jimmer) my morning has been filled with questions about tea and coffee. Thank goodness the no facial hair part of the HC isn't getting more press nationally.

by East Coast Bias 2011-03-03 09:28:21

And I'm pretty sure the question, "So you mean you didn't gave sex until you were married?!?" By a female co-worker probably qualified as some sort of HOUR violation--whatever.

People are all over this story.

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ColoUte missed one category that I believe fits the majority of people who frequent this board: The Increasingly Apathetic Fan

by East Coast Bias 2011-02-28 19:10:19

Quite frankly I could care less about finishing at the top half of this conference if we have nothing to play for because we don't win the winnable games early in the season.

Yes, I know I am repeating myself from yesterday, but if we have a coach that consistently loses to the likes of Hawaii, Portland, San Diego, Oral Roberts, etc. our season gets ruined just as the conference games are getting started. And I wish it was just a one or two year problem. No, we have struggled mightily in winnable games since Boylen became the coach. (Not to suggest that Majerus never lost a What the Fetch?!? game every now and then, but they were few and far between enough to be considered a fluke)

Seriously. If we could have defeated Airforce ONCE, Portland, San Diego, and Oral Roberts we are at minimum an NIT team with some things to look forward to next year. Get hot in our last two games and in the MWC tournament and now we are talking NCAA bubble.

I would be so excited about Utah hoops going into next year and having Boylen as our coach.

Instead we have nothing to realistically play for something like the 5th year out of 6.

I'm not a Boylen apologist or a Boylen hater. I'm just starting to not care anymore about Utah basketball. Something tells me that the silent majority on the board are feeling the same.

And when the fans stop caring so does the media. And when the media stops caring the program dies because the general public stops paying attention. That is why I support change. Just so I have a reason to think things will improve so I can start caring again like I used to with this program.

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Question for everyone on the board. If we won our winnable non-conference games (ie., Portland, Oral Roberts, San Diego, etc.), finished top 4 in the conference, and got invited to the NIT would your feeling be different regarding Boylen? Mine would

by East Coast Bias 2011-02-27 18:51:47

I think Mr. C's argument about finishing in the upper half of the conference is more damning than anything else. Especially when it really doesn't get the Utes anything to show for it.

As a fan I really start to wonder how we had so many bad losses and what a different coach would do with all the talent we know is on this team.

And THAT is why I am in favor of change after this season.

(And for the record, if this wasn't a trend over the last four seasons I would also be more forgiving and chalk up our early season to inexperience)

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Here is my problem with being patient with Boylen. I have no evidence he can be successful on the college level. If his name were Mark Few or Brad Stephens I would look at this season and say, "Ok...he is struggling this season, but...

by East Coast Bias 2011-02-27 17:08:29

...he has had success at other programs so I am willing to ride this thing out since he has shown the ability to recruit, coach players up, and build a program in the past."

Maybe because I am watching the same scenario play out firsthand at both Utah and NC State at the same time, but I am falling into the camp that NBA assistants with no prior college head coaching experience do not instill confidence with me.

Sydney Lowe and Boylen seem to run the same type of frenetic offense and have both enjoyed up and down seasons. (Add up NC State's record over the last five years and they end up near the bottom of the ACC despite decent recruiting classes that look good on paper)

The damning evidence for both are the wins that come against teams they shouldn't beat later in the season after they have already been labeled as a conference cellar-dweller based on a rough non-conference season. This suggests that the talent is and has been there to be so much more successful.

In fact, I am starting to believe that the bottom half of the MWC is a lot worse than what we were led to believe most of the season. How come BYU can barnstorm through the conference, but struggle early with the likes of Creighton, South Florida, and UCLA?

How come Utah can struggle with Oral Roberts, San Diego, Boise State and then have a realistic shot at finishing 4th in this conference?

I like Boylen as a person, but I am not convinced he can be successful long-term. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

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I know its probably the East Coast Bias in me, but can someone convince me that San Diego State is not one of the most overrated Top 10 teams of all time? Their only signature wins were over UNLV twice.

by East Coast Bias 2011-02-26 15:29:40

And so what if BYU beat Arizona in Salt Lake? Is that really their win they hang their hat on? Practically a road game for the Wildcats early in the season. Outside of that win I think the road games at New Mexico, UCLA, and South Florida (a BYU win mind you) games are more telling. The Cougs are not unbeatable.

I just wonder if the MWC is pulling a Missouri Valley Conference move where the top teams play a lousy out of conference schedule, get their rankings inflated then appear to have signature wins later in the season when they play each other.

Not trying to be a hater. Just not that convinced is all.

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I would say that the most frustrating part of the season are the flashes of brilliance shown by this team.

by East Coast Bias 2011-02-19 21:02:46

Sometimes you just have to shake your head and wonder how Boylen lets things get so BAD at times during the season to lose so many head scratching games.

This team has talent.

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John Calipari, Bob Huggins, Bruce Pearl...all coaches that turned programs around immediately, but had questionable means by which they did it. Who is a legitimate coach that went to a program and turned things around quickly?

by East Coast Bias 2011-02-13 14:03:44

I know that Dave Rose would be a coup for everyone on this board; however, he has been at BYU for a looooong time already and has one fewer NCAA tournament win than Giacoletti.

We've seen a number of up and coming coaches get lost at a number of high profile programs because they can't turn things around or sustain success.

I think the idea of getting a home run hire is a little overrated. Too many examples of how the slow and steady approach is what works the best. Anything that is a quick fix usually comes with baggage or worse.

We need a coach and a fanbase committed to building a program. If Boylen is not the guy to do it, fine. But let's bring in the right guy for the long-term.

Hire for the long-term and forget about trying to find the quick fix guy. The price is too steep.

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If we settle for an unproven assistant to be our Head Coach I humbly submit Steve Wojciechowski's name.

by East Coast Bias 2011-02-13 05:20:17

Watch the intensity this guy had as a player and now an Assistant Head Coach and I'd rather roll the dice with him than an assistant from a WCC school.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wojcie chowski

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