Brett McMurphy tweeted out a quote from WVU coach Dana Holgorsen advocating for P5 teams to play only other P5 teams in non-league games. I was curious if he puts his money where his mouth is, so I looked up their future schedules.
by UteThunder 2016-08-29 20:07:51
Gotta say, I am impressed.
In addition to their 9 BigXII games, they also play the following P5s in future seasons.
2017 Virginia Tech
2018 Tennessee, NC State
2019 Missouri, NC State
2021 Maryland, Virginia Tech
2022 Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech
2023 Penn State, Pittsburgh
2024 Penn State, Pittsburgh
That gives them 11 P5s in 6 of the next 10 seasons. And they still have one opening each year from 2018 to 2024, two openings in 2025.
I can't imagine they will fill those remaining spots with P5s though I suppose they might with Holgorsen's comment, but good on them for making the move to schedule more P5s and fewer G5/FCS teams.
I will be keeping an eye on all Pac-12 games, but I've only listed the ones I will attempt to watch all, or part of, plus a bunch of other games I find interesting.
Fri. August 26th Hawaii vs Cal in Australia - Pac-12 team and it is the first game of the year.
Thur. September 1st SUU @ Utah - Can't wait to see our new QB. Weber State @ Utah State - I almost always take an interest in the Aggies. Oregon State @ Minnesota - I am interested to see the improvement Gary's team has made.
Fri. September 2nd Colorado State vs Colorado - Opening week rivalry game. Kansas State @ #8 Stanford - How good are the Cardinal this year?
Sat. September 3rd #3 Oklahoma vs #15 Houston - Top 15 matchup. Rutgers @ #14 Washington - Solid opener for the Huskies. #16 UCLA @ Texas A&M - Big opener for the Bruins. #18 Georgia vs #22 North Carolina - Top 25 matchup. #20 USC vs #1 Alabama - Huge opener for the Trojans. #2 Clemson @ Auburn - Should be a good game. Arizona vs BYU - How good are these two future opponents.
Sun. September 4th #10 Notre Dame @ Texas - It's Texas and Notre Dame.
Mon. September 5th #11 Ole Miss vs #4 Florida State - Top 15 matchup.
Ok BYU fans, if you claim that BYU is not discriminatory to LGBT, then try this little exercise.
Take whatever reason or argument you would typically make about why BYU is not discriminatory towards LGBT, and insert African American/Black in place of LGBT. Then tell us how BYU's honor code isn't discriminatory.
"It's our religious belief, being [African American] is a sin."
"It's ok to be [black] at BYU, [blacks] just aren't allowed to kiss, hug, or hold hands with other [black] people. [Blacks] aren't allowed to be married to other [blacks] while at BYU."
"If [African American] people don't want to live by our rules, then [African American] people shouldn't come to BYU."
I really can't believe they try to defend their policies regarding LGBT as being non-discriminatory. Certainly, as a private institution, it is their right to discriminate based on their religious beliefs. But, it is absolutely asinine to try and claim BYU doesn't discriminate and it is equally asinine to expect others to tolerate BYU's discrimination.
With football season quickly approaching, does anyone have a way for me to watch Fox 13 without switching providers?
by UteThunder 2016-08-14 14:34:48
I have Dish Network and they dropped Fox 13 back in early June. At this point, I'm thinking both sides think they can use viewer demand for football as the impetus to get the other side to cave on negotiations. The problem is, if both sides are thinking that way, then neither side is going to cave and I am going to miss out on a lot of NFL and college football.
He is from the Lavell Edwards era and was a starter.
Asked his thoughts on BigXII expansion. He thinks it is over as far as BYU is concerned and they aren't getting in. Doesn't see anyway BYU gets in with how things have unfolded since the BigXII meetings.
Oh, the irony! There are few things more amusing than watching BYU fans try to accuse other groups of bigotry. :D
by UteThunder 2016-08-08 18:42:11
Newsflash BYU fans: LGBT groups aren't against you for being Mormon. They are against you because you, your university, and your religion have a history of being bigoted against blacks, gays, and women.
If you want tolerance from LGBT, then you need to be tolerant towards them. You can't expect others to be tolerant towards you when you are intolerant towards them.
Time and time again, people around here say things like "if we just average (insert ridiculously low number here) yards per game, we will win the division/conference."
by UteThunder 2016-08-02 12:25:09
We will not win the Pac-12 without a significant increase in offensive production
Folks, in our best season(2015), we averaged 386 total yards/game and 30 points/game in Pac-12 play. Averaging those same numbers or LESS is not going to result in us winning the division/conference.
A little while ago I posted a write up comparing the North/South division winners and their total offensive production. The lowest was last year with USC at 406 yards/game and 32 points/game. The typical division winners averaged 450+ yards/game and scored 35+ points/game.
We will not win the division with 200-250 yards passing unless that is accompanied by 200-250 yards rushing.
Arkansas has never played Arkansas State or FCS Arkansas-Pine Bluff.
Alabama has never played South Alabama, Troy State, or UAB. They have also never played FCS teams Alabama A&M, Alabama State, or Jacksonville State, and have not played Samford since 1944.
Ole Miss has not played Southern Mississippi since 1984 and has only played them 24 times dating back to 1913. They have also never played FCS teams Alcorn State, Jackson State, or Mississippi Valley State.
Cal and Hawaii kick off the football season one month from today.
by UteThunder 2016-07-27 14:50:02
Side Note: What the hell was Hawaii thinking when they scheduled the first two weeks of the season? They fly 5,071 miles to play Cal in Sydney, Australia in the opener. Then have to fly 4,442 miles to play at Michigan the very next week. That is 19,026 miles round trip for the two games. For context, Utah plays 6 road games this year and will travel a grand total of 8,290 miles round trip.
At least Cal had the good sense to schedule a bye after the Hawaii game and then they only have to travel to San Diego State the week after that.
Heard an interview on 1320 with an Austin reporter while driving this evening.
by UteThunder 2016-07-26 19:21:19
I've gone back and forth on whether BYU is going to get invited to the BigXII because they have a lot of positives, but they have a lot of negatives as well.
After hearing this Austin reporter, I am leaning heavily towards believing BYU does not get invited to the BigXII, and it is for two reasons.
1) He mentioned that any team receiving an invite will have to be approved by at least 8 votes: I'm not sure BYU has the votes. It seems like WVU would vote against adding BYU considering their motivation for expansion is to make themselves less geographically isolated. Adding BYU does nothing to help that. And if Texas & TX-Tech are really pushing for Houston, they would probably be willing to give up any Western expansion to get UH into the league, which means they would likely endorse whatever Eastern candidates are proposed. If that is the case, then that is 3 votes against adding BYU. Obviously, if they expanded by 4 teams this could all become moot as WVU could get 1 or 2 travel partners, Texas could get Houston, and there would still be room to add BYU. But then he said this next part.
2) There are schools in the BigXII who don't want to add "another Texas": He went on to explain that what he meant by 'another Texas' was a school with an ego like what Texas has. This is where things could get dicey for BYU even if the BigXII expanded by 4. If even just 3 BigXII presidents view BYU as being a high-maintenance school with a huge ego(which BYU definitely is), they won't have the votes to get in even as a 3rd or 4th option.
While I am hoping BYU doesn't get into the BigXII, there are a few reasons I wouldn't mind it.
by UteThunder 2016-07-22 13:06:59
1. The BigXII would not let BYU's dirty play go unpunished. They would no longer be able to handle things "internally" when one of their players throws a punch or leads with their head.
2. Stabilization of the BigXII can help prevent the formation of super-conferences. This is more of a general concept, as the BigXII doesn't necessarily get stabilized by adding BYU. In fact, whatever stabilization they can accomplish by expanding will happen regardless of which G5 teams they choose. So whether it is Houston and Cincinnati or BYU and Memphis, the resulting stabilization will be the same.
3. BYU in the BigXII basically guarantees that BYU will never be in the Pac-12. I know we like to think that is already the case, but with the threat of super-conferences looming there will always be a sliver of a chance that BYU could become an option with the lack of good expansion options in the West.
4. It will be nice to see BYU finally have to face the week-in and week-out brutality of a P5 schedule. Since going independent, they have never faced more than 3 P5s in a row and have never played more than 6 in a regular season.
CA - 35
UT - 30
FL - 11
TX - 9
WA - 4
AZ - 3
NV - 3
HI - 2
LA - 2
CO - 1
ID - 1
OR - 1
PA - 1
Australia - 1
Japan - 1
Total - 105
More than half of the roster comes from CA, FL, & TX and less than a third comes from UT.
p.s. According to a Deseret News article, Utah had 20 returned missionaries on the 2015 roster. Pretty safe bet the number is approximately the same this year. IOW - Stop beating that same tired drum AAU.
I could see BYU getting an invite to the BigXII, but there was a statement made by either their commissioner or one of their presidents a couple of weeks ago that makes me think they will be passed over.
by UteThunder 2016-07-19 16:38:58
I can't remember the quote word for word, nor can I find it now, but the basic gist of what he was saying(IIRC) was this:
'Some people might question the rationale of who we would expand with.'
I wish I could find the actual quote, but the context of it seemed to say "A lot of people think BYU is the best choice, but we are leaning elsewhere."
16 team super-conferences. Who does the Pac-12 end up with?
by UteThunder 2016-07-19 15:20:27
I'm assuming that if super-conferences happen, it will be because one or more of the ACC, B1G, and SEC expand to 16. If one of those leagues expands to 16 it will most likely be with Texas +1 and Oklahoma +1. I don't think anyone is getting Texas and Oklahoma by themselves.
So, let's say the B1G takes Texas and TX-Tech and the SEC takes Oklahoma and OK-State. The ACC likely takes West Virginia and who else? Does Notre Dame finally join a conference and become a full member of the ACC? More importantly, who does the Pac-12 take to get to 16?
I would think we take Kansas and KS-State plus two more of the following: Houston, TCU, CSU, UNLV, Hawaii and New Mexico.
Man, I really hope 16 team super-conferences never happen. The Pac-12 is perfect as presently constituted.
The answer to what it will take to win the Pac-12 South, and more importantly, the Pac-12 Championship.
by UteThunder 2016-07-16 13:26:28
Below are the per game averages IN PAC-12 PLAY ONLY for the North & South Champions as well as Utah. *USC is listed as the South Champion for 2011 because they had the best record in the South but were ineligible for post-season play. I didn't think the 2011 UCLA team was a valid comparison for what is needed to win the division in a typical season.
Going off of the 5 year averages for the South Champion, Utah will need to improve upon last year's conference performance by 8+ points per game and 60+ total yards per game to win the division; Utah will need to improve by 9+ ppg and 75+ total yards per game to win the conference. Obviously, this is just to beat the averages and there is a possibility that we could win it with less, but there is also a possibility we will need even more to win the division/conference.
5 Year Avg
Bottom line: I believe, at a minimum, we are going to need 250+ yards passing, 175+ yards rushing, and 38 ppg in conference play to win the Pac-12 title.
A while back, I posted a comparison of the last 25 football seasons for Utah & BYU to disprove the "Utah has only had two good seasons, BYU has had 40 years of greatness" myth they perpetuate. Now, a closer look at one of those comparisons: P5 Record
Part of the argument we get from BYU fans when we throw out our better record vs P5 teams is that we play weak P5 teams while they are playing the creme de la creme. While it is true that they have played some tough teams over the years, they have also played their share of cupcakes while we have slayed some giants(something they have NEVER done).
From 1991 - 2015, the last 25 seasons . . .
Record vs P5 Teams
In Utah's 53 wins, the opponents have a combined record of 299-348-1(.462)
In BYU's 33 wins, the opponents have a combined record of 174-224-1(.437)
Wins vs 6+ Win P5 Teams
Utah = 28
BYU = 20
Wins vs 9+ Win P5 Teams
Utah = 8
BYU = 2
Wins vs 10+ Win P5 Teams
Utah = 4
BYU = 0
In Utah's 46 losses, the opponents have a combined record of 351-231-1(.603)
In BYU's 49 losses, the opponents have a combined record of 381-208-2(.646)
To the delight of many, I am going to try to take a step back from defending the police.
by UteThunder 2016-07-11 14:51:20
I may seem vociferous in defending our police, but it is only because I am one of the few here willing to look at things from their side. The people who bash the police here seem to do it from a place of hatred and anger for getting a ticket. They are unwilling to put themselves in an officer's shoes and see why things might happen the way they happen. They have little to no knowledge of the laws and policies that govern police work, or why those laws and policies were enacted.
When an officer seemingly over steps his bounds because he had the audacity to fear for his life, the best they get is "they signed up for that" or "they don't have the right" or "they work for us" as if any of that means cops can't or shouldn't do the things they do to make it home alive each day.
I love our police officers and the job they do. Are they perfect? Of course not. When they violate the law, they should be held accountable. But they should be held accountable by the law, not rioting protestors and cowardly snipers.
In closing, a "careful what you wish for" warning to all of those who are anti-police, or cop-haters, or even just cop-bashers:
You may think the police are bad now, but you just wait. As the public outrage continues to build, we are going to move from where we are now to one of two extremes.
1) Total anarchy due to a lack of an adequate police force(in numbers) or due to a neutered police force unable to act with any authority - in effect they will become glorified security guards who observe and report but never arrest or detain.
2) We will become a police state not too far off from what Nazi Germany was. You may say we are already there, but we aren't even close. To maintain order and "treat everyone equally" our society will become one where every citizen is required to show their papers, whether they are making a midnight beer run in a bad neighborhood or out for an afternoon jog in the nicest part of town. Everyone will be under suspicion and law-abiding citizens will long for the days when it was just the criminals the police worried about.
I'm sure many will call me crazy, but there is no happy medium where police and criminals live in harmony and nobody is ever shot. What we have now isn't perfect, but it is about as close as our society is capable of and is much better than the alternatives.
To UteMan and anyone else who has a problem with police writing traffic tickets.
by UteThunder 2016-07-08 12:20:14
First and foremost, the purpose of writing traffic citations is to keep people safe. Allowing people to violate the laws of the road is a recipe for mass carnage.
Secondarily, traffic stops are used for investigative purposes. Every day, hundreds of people with warrants for their arrest are taken off the streets due to traffic stops. Hundreds of more people involved in illegal activity are arrested as a result of traffic stops.
Third, it is used as a way of making sure officers aren't parking under a tree and taking a nap. If they are making stops and writing citations when there are no calls, this shows that they are out doing their job, policing the community.
Fourth, and here is the big one for you "revenue generators" people. Yes, revenue is generated from the fines collected on traffic violations. But rather than think of this in simple terms of "revenue generation" you need to start looking at it for what it is, and that is an idiot tax. Running a city or county costs money. That money can come from one of two places. Either we all pay in the form of much higher taxes, or the idiots who can't follow the law can pay. If you don't like paying the idiot tax, well, stop breaking the law.
If anyone thinks we should just raise taxes, that's fine, but the police will still be writing citations with the accompanying fines for the three reasons listed above.
Team 4 in my game by game predictions of Utah opponents and other teams of note.
by UteThunder 2016-07-06 15:07:29
Oregon State 3-9(1-8)
Up next, the Arizona State Sun Devils
Northern Arizona W
Texas Tech L
@ UTSA W
@ USC L
@ Colorado W
Washington State L
@ Oregon L
@ Washington L
@ Arizona L
After a 3-1 start, the wheels come off as the Sun Devils hit the meat of their schedule. ASU is losing 4 of their starting OL from last year and only returns 4 starters on offense. The Devils still have talent, but without Graham's ability to steal signals from his opponents, I don't think that talent is going to be in position to make the needed plays to win games in this league. Does Todd Graham start eyeing his next job halfway through the season?
Team 3 in my game by game predictions of Utah opponents and other teams of note.
by UteThunder 2016-07-05 15:49:34
Oregon State 3-9(1-8)
Up next, the Colorado Buffaloes
@ Colorado State(Denver, CO) W
Idaho State W
@ Michigan L
@ Oregon L
Oregon State W
@ USC L
Arizona State L
@ Stanford L
@ Arizona W
Washington State L
The poor Buffaloes, just can't seem to pick up any momentum. Their best record since joining the Pac-12 is 4-8(2013) and they've only won more than 1 conference game one time(2 wins in 2011). Playing a one-and-done at Michigan, (who does that?) isn't a smart move for a team trying to re-build what used to be a great program but has been stuck in a decade long funk. I think part of the problem is they have a decent coach in a conference full of great coaches. This will be year 4 under Coach MacIntyre, and a 4 win season could mean it is the final year for the former San Jose State coach.
Team 2 in my game by game predictions of Utah opponents and other teams of note.
by UteThunder 2016-07-01 11:19:59
Up next, the Oregon State Beavers
@ Minnesota W
Idaho State W
Boise State L
@ Colorado L
@ Washington L
Washington State L
@ Stanford L
@ UCLA L
Gary's team takes a small step forward, improving on their 2-10 record from last year by just a single game. Similar to the job he had at Utah State, it is going to take Andersen at least 3 years to get this team bowl eligible. His re-build was made even more difficult with the departure of his DC after just one year. Then again, with the way KS's defenses seemed to be slowly regressing at Utah, maybe Oregon State is better off.
The Beavers could maybe pick up a 4th win against Colorado, but even if they do, the rest of their schedule just seems unfair for a team that is in a downturn. Especially when you consider their bye comes in week 2 followed by the Idaho State game. That leaves 10 straight weeks of big boy football without a break, bookended by Boise State and Oregon.
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