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    Not very many likely or realistically possible losses for top 25 teams this week. Looks like Utah will need to beat Wazzu & UCLA to join the top 25.

    by UteThunder
    2014-09-21 15:03:50

    Bottom 10 of the AP Top 25, realistic chance of an upset are in bold.

    #25 Kansas State vs. UTEP
    #24 Oklahoma State vs. Texas Tech
    #23 E. Carolina -BYE-
    #22 Ohio State vs. Cincinnati
    #21 Nebraska vs. Illinois
    #20 BYU -BYE-
    #19 Wisconsin vs. South Florida
    #18 USC vs. Oregon State
    #17 LSU vs. New Mexico State
    #16 Stanford @ Washington

    Maybe Utah can steal some votes this week from E. Carolina & BYU with both of them being out of sight, out of mind.

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    Michigan might be down, but I don't think they are nearly as down as many would have us believe.

    by UteThunder
    2014-09-21 12:05:58

    Looking at their schedule, I don't think it is a stretch to say Michigan will make a bowl game.

    They're certainly capable of picking up wins in all of the following games:

    vs. Minnesota
    @ Rutgers
    vs. Penn State
    vs. Indiana
    @ Northwestern
    vs. Maryland


    The only games I would say are likely losses would be @ Michigan State and @ Ohio State. However, those are rivalry games with the whole "anything can happen" angle, and they do get a bye week to prepare for the Spartans.

    Unless the team quits on Hoke, or they face catastrophic injuries, I think Michigan finishes the regular season anywhere between 6-6 and 9-3. This was a good win and a better win than the 2008 2 point victory over what turned out to be a 3-9 Michigan team.

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    Tracking my Pac-12(plus BYU & Utah State) pre-season picks, Week 4

    by UteThunder
    2014-09-21 11:20:18

    Week 1: 12-2
    Week 2: 9-4
    Week 3: 7-3
    Week 4: 7-1

    Season: 35-10

    Games I missed on this week . . .


    Utah State @ Arkansas State

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    On the topic of Utah State saying they will only play Utah if it is on equal terms:

    by UteThunder
    2014-09-14 14:11:34

    It's fine if Hill wants to tell the Aggies no, but not if he is going to turn around and schedule home-and-homes with San Jose State & Northern Illinois.

    We should only be looking elsewhere from the Aggies for scheduling under a few scenarios:

    1) We get a 2-for-1 or a 1-and-done in our favor from another G5 team.
    2) We get a P5 team on the schedule.
    3) We get a G5 team from Texas or Florida or maybe even Hawaii on the schedule.

    Northern Illinois and San Jose State offer nothing to make them more attractive than playing Utah State. Not even the trip to California because we already play 1 or 2 games per year in California.

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    Tracking my Pac-12(plus BYU & Utah State) pre-season picks, Week 3

    by UteThunder
    2014-09-14 10:39:44

    Week 1: 12-2
    Week 2: 9-4
    Week 3: 7-3

    Season: 28-9


    Games I missed on this week . . .

    Houston @ BYU
    UCLA @ Texas
    USC @ Boston College

    A quarter of the way through the regular season, here are the teams I haven't missed on yet:

    Arizona
    Arizona State
    California
    Oregon State
    Utah
    Washington
    Utah State

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    Since it's our bye week, and we would be playing BYU today if not for the 2 year break, here are some fun rivalry numbers. Feel free to share them with your local BYU fan when they try to say Utah has only had 2 or 3 good seasons.

    by UteThunder
    2014-09-13 09:31:28

    - Over the last 12 years, Utah has beaten BYU as many times as Utah has beaten Utah State: 9-3 against the Cougars; 9-1 against the Aggies. Nice company to be in BYU.

    - Over the last 3 years, Utah has posted a better winning percentage than BYU against P5 teams: Utah 11-18(.379); BYU 6-10(.375). But they would compete better than Utah if they were in the Pac-12 . . .

    - During the BCS era, Utah posted a better winning percentage than BYU against P5 teams: Utah 32-30(.516); BYU 23-31(.426). Before joining the Pac-12, Utah's record was 21-12(.636). But they would compete better than Utah if they were in the Pac-12 . . .

    - All-time record against teams currently in P5 conferences, Utah has posted a better winning percentage than BYU: Utah 114-175-6(.397); BYU 103-172-7(.378) - for BYU that includes all games against Utah. If we exclude the pre-Pac12 games, their record DROPS to 72-121-3(.375). But they would compete better than Utah if they were in the Pac-12 . . .

    - Over the last 20 years, Utah has posted a better winning percentage than BYU: Utah 161-80(.668); BYU 165-85(.664) - and that includes the past 3 years of Utah playing significantly more difficult competition. Taking out the last 3 years the numbers are: Utah 143-61(.701); BYU 139-72(.659). But we've only had a couple of good seasons while they have been having the same success they had in the 80s . . .

    - Over the last 20 years, Utah has had fewer seasons than BYU of .500 or worse: Utah 4; BYU 5.

    - Over the last 20 years, Utah has had a better bowl record than BYU: Utah 11-2, BYU 8-5.

    - Over the last 20 years, Utah has won just one fewer conference championship: Utah 5; BYU 6 - and both teams won the same number of MWC championships: 4.


    Looking at these numbers I find it hard to fathom how they can think their program has been so superior to ours over the last 20 years or where they get this notion that if they were in the Pac-12 instead of Utah, they would have won many more games than Utah has so far. Looking back at our last 3 schedules, there's no way they win more games than we did in any of those years. More probable, they would lose 1 or 2 more games each year than what Utah did.

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    Hilarious. Make sure you have the sound on for full effect.

    by UteThunder
    2014-09-08 20:05:39

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    Tracking my Pac-12(plus BYU & Utah State) pre-season picks, week 2

    by UteThunder
    2014-09-07 10:00:39

    Week 2: 9-4

    Season: 21-6

    Missed on the following picks this week . . .

    Michigan State @ Oregon
    Stanford vs. USC
    Washington State @ Nevada
    BYU @ Texas

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    My preseason Pac-12(plus BYU & Utah State) picks

    by UteThunder
    2014-09-01 09:34:29

    Thought it would be fun to keep track of how accurate my preseason picks were, so I will be tracking my picks week by week.

    Week 1: 12-2
    Season: 12-2

    I missed on Washington State vs Rutgers and Colorado vs Colorado State.

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    A little fun with numbers to share with your local idiot BYU fan who wants to tell you just how awful Utah looked against Idaho State

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-30 20:40:01

    Utah obviously opened with Idaho State this year while BYU played them last year in November.

    -----------Idaho State vs BYU

    1st Downs--------22--------22
    Total Yards-----287-------578
    Passing---------128-------157
    Rushing---------159-------421
    Turnovers---------3---------3
    Possession----35:41-----24:19
    Final Score------13--------59


    ----------Idaho State vs Utah

    1st Downs--------21------27
    Total Yards-----337-----589
    Passing---------158-----351
    Rushing---------179-----238
    Turnovers---------0-------1
    Possession----34:41---25:03
    Final Score------14------56

    The two games were nearly identical and really don't reveal anything about how good or bad Utah and BYU are. The only statistic of note would be Taysom Hill's 3 INTs against the Bengals last year.

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    Thoughts on Fan Fest

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-24 09:36:07

    Highlights:

    - Evening temperature was perfect! Great move Dr. Hill.
    - Throwing passes to my son all over the field, but particularly all of the TD passes in the NEZ.
    - Taking my son's picture with Kenneth Scott and Donovan Isom.
    - Having Donovan Isom throw a couple of passes to my son in the NEZ.
    - Walking through the tunnel the players come out of; my son could hardly contain himself when we came around the corner and he saw we could do that.
    - Fireworks. Great way to conclude an evening at the stadium.

    Lowlights:

    - Not a single one.

    Best Fan Fest I've ever attended.

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    On the topic of Utah being lucky to get into the Pac-12

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-20 20:21:02

    Obviously Utah was lucky to get in, but I don't think it was in this dumb luck, Utah just happened to be sitting on the right park bench to fall in to the Pac-12 when Texas stayed home.

    I have never believed, and I never will believe, that Utah wasn't part of plan 'A' all along. That doesn't mean Utah was target #1, or even target #2 or #3 etc., just that Utah was part of the plan all along.

    Think about it: Which group of teams would deliver the most markets to the Pac-12?

    a) 2 Texas schools, 2 Oklahoma schools, 1 Colorado school, and 1 Utah school?

    or

    b) 3 Texas schools, 2 Oklahoma schools, and 1 Colorado school?


    Obviously it is the first choice.

    I have no doubt Utah was taken off the table for awhile because Texas and Oklahoma would be so much more valuable that it would make more sense to take them even with the third TX school over not getting them at all and having to "settle" for Utah & Colorado only, but that doesn't mean Utah wasn't part of the original plan from the get go.

    I believe the Pac-10's targets were, in order:

    1) Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, Utah, Oklahoma State, and another Texas team.

    2) Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, Oklahoma State & Two more Texas schools or One more Texas school and Kansas.

    3) Colorado and Utah.

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    Interesting quotes from former BYU player.

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-18 20:37:34

    Former BYU player Tui Crichton after transferring to Weber State.

    “There were some things that were going on with the team -- a lot of guys getting in trouble, my name came up -- and he(Bronco) just didn’t want to work with me anymore, so he just sent one of his coaches to give me the hatchet.”


    With their new policy of not addressing Honor Code issues unless they become public by means beyond their control, I have little doubt that a great deal of issues have been swept under the rug these past few months and many more than usual will be swept under the rug in the future.


    I feel like players here are more sure of themselves, as opposed to BYU. People are more in their shells, I guess you could say. Not everything’s out and open and honest as much it is over here,” Crichton explained. “I went to BYU for three years, and coming from there to here is just day and night. I just feel like people here are more real.


    Nothing surprising there, but it does blow a hole in the "our players are special because of our 'higher standards' compared to other programs" B.S. they spew. Most of them don't even live their standards, they just pretend to.

    The whole article

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    Can someone explain to me what is up with Oregon State & Colorado scheduling?

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-14 20:42:13

    Colorado has a one-off at Michigan in 2016.

    Oregon State has a one-off at Michigan in 2015 and just scheduled another one-off at Ohio State in 2018.

    I understand it when someone like UNLV or BYU(snicker) signs up for these one-offs against elite programs, but why are a couple of Pac-12 teams signing up for these deals?

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    Cal just scheduled North Carolina & TCU. I'm slowly coming around to the idea of never playing BYU again, or only playing them a couple times a decade.

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-13 15:12:36

    Looking at our future schedules and comparing to the future schedules of our Pac-12 friends leaves me wondering if it is time to stop scheduling BYU.

    Just look at the P5 teams the rest of the Pac-12 is scheduling:

    UA - Mississippi State
    ASU - Notre Dame, aTm, TX Tech, Michigan State, LSU
    Cal - Northwestern, Texas, North Carolina, TCU
    CU - Michigan, Nebraska, Minnesota
    OU - Michigan State, Virginia, Nebraska, aTm, Ohio State
    OSU - Michigan, Minnesota
    Stan - Notre Dame, Northwestern, Virginia
    UCLA - Virginia, Texas, aTm, Oklahoma, Rutgers, LSU, Michigan
    USC - Boston College, Notre Dame, Alabama, Texas, Tennessee
    UW - Illinois, Rutgers, Wisconsin
    WSU - Rutgers, Wisconsin

    Other than Michigan this year and next, Utah has ZERO non-conference games against P5 teams. And our schedules are full through 2018 and we only need one more game in 2019(probably going to be BYU).

    If playing BYU every year means not playing P5 non-conference opponents, I'm really starting to lean towards not playing BYU. Fresno, San Jose, and Northern Illinois are nice G5 opponents, but I would rather see Wisconsin, Michigan State, Virginia, aTm, Mississippi State, etc.

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    I love the Blacklist. After seeing these promos, I can't wait for the new season to begin.

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-12 14:57:36



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    Phil Steele ranks Utah's SOS #8 in the country.

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-12 09:11:38

    SOS Rankings


    The Pac-12 leads Phil Steele’s rankings with eight teams in his Top 25 toughest schedules. They are followed by the SEC (6), Big 12 (5), ACC (3), Big Ten (2) and Notre Dame.



    Teams of Interest:

    #8 --- Utah
    #9 --- Cal
    #11 -- UCLA
    #16 -- Stanford
    #17 -- USC
    #18 -- Washington State
    #24 -- Colorado
    #25 -- Arizona State
    #29 -- Arizona
    #40 -- TCU
    #47 -- Oregon State
    #48 -- Oregon
    #52 -- Washington
    #53 -- Michigan
    #72 -- Wisconsin
    #73 -- BYU
    #81 -- Fresno State
    #106 - Utah State

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    Interesting angle I hadn't considered regarding P5 autonomy/stipends and BYU.

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-07 16:09:32

    The P5 conferences will be setting their own standards for stipends and what-not, and it will be up to the rest of the conferences to follow suit or set their own lesser standards regarding stipends and what-not.

    For football, BYU can follow the P5 standards if they can afford to do so because they aren't part of any conference.

    But what about all of their other sports and the WCC?

    Will the WCC try to keep up with the P5 standards?

    Will the WCC even try to pay stipends of any amount?

    If they don't, how badly will this effect BYU's ability to recruit & compete in all of the other sports?

    I have a hard time believing the WCC would allow BYU to pay all of their other athletes just because they can pay their football players, while the rest of the conference would have to compete at a distinct disadvantage relative to BYU.

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    Another team of interest checks in on the USA Today College Football Pre-Season Rankings Countdown - #34 BYU

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-07 09:44:17

    They aren't good enough to be ranked this high in any poll, but their schedule is weak enough that they will probably win just enough games to justify this ranking.

    For this reason, I would actually like to see BYU get into the BigXII: Just so they can see what it is like to play a real schedule week in and week out every year.

    They would get pasted by Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, TCU, Texas Tech, Baylor, & West Virginia almost every year. And they would be splitting games with Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, and Cincinnati(or whoever else the 12th team would be)most years.

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    Report: Another natural rock formation in Utah has toppled. Gobblin toppling Utah County douche bags sought for questioning.

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-06 14:47:32

    Cobra Rock Formation Beheaded

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    Another Utah opponent checks in on the USA Today College Football Pre-Season Rankings Countdown - Michigan

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-06 12:20:39

    #66 Utah

    Opponents:

    FCS -- Idaho State
    #101 - Colordado
    #61 -- Washington State
    #52 -- Oregon State
    #51 -- Fresno State
    #47 -- Arizona State
    #35 -- Michigan
    NR --- Arizona
    NR --- Stanford
    NR --- USC
    NR --- Oregon
    NR --- UCLA

    Other teams of interest:

    #116 - California
    #76 -- San Jose State(future opponent)
    #46 -- Utah State
    #39 -- Northern Illinois(future opponent)
    #37 -- TCU

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    Team #14 in my countdown to the start of Fall Camp.

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-03 12:37:30

    In case you missed it, I am predicting every Pac-12 team's game by game results(plus Utah State & BYU) working my way from worst record to best record on our way to the start of Fall Camp.

    Previous Teams:

    - Colorado 4-8(1-8)
    - Oregon State 5-7(2-7)
    - California 5-7(2-7)
    - Arizona 6-6(3-6)
    - Washington 7-6(3-6)
    - BYU 7-5
    - Washington State 7-5(4-5)
    - USC 7-5(4-5)
    - Utah State 8-5(5-3)
    - Arizona State 9-3(6-3)
    - Utah 9-3(6-3)
    - Oregon 9-3(7-2)
    - Stanford 10-2(7-2)

    Today's team, UCLA

    Record: 11-1(9-0)

    @ Virginia - W
    Memphis - W
    Texas(In Arlington) - L
    BYE
    @ Arizona State - W
    Utah - W
    Oregon - W
    @ California - W
    @ Colorado - W
    Arizona - W
    @ Washington - W
    BYE
    USC - W
    Stanford - W

    UCLA is a strange case. Sometimes I feel like they are poised for greatness this year, but other times I think they are going to fall flat on their face this year and could start 2-2 or 1-3. For these predictions I decided to go with the more positive scenario.

    The loss to Texas: Maybe I am overestimating the impact Strong is going to have with the Longhorns, but I see that as a likely loss for the Bruins. It's on the road and Texas has athletes. Plus, I think the Bruins just might come into that game feeling a little over confident.

    After the sobering loss, UCLA will take care of business in the Pac-12. A win in the Pac-12 title game will all but guarantee the Bruins a spot in the playoff as they will have one of the strongest 'PERCEIVED' strengths of schedule in the country - having played a total of 12 P5 opponents, half of which will probably finish the season ranked.

    Well, there you have it. Fall camp starts tomorrow.

    Go Utes!

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    Team #13 in my countdown to the start of Fall Camp.

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-02 10:42:41

    In case you missed it, I am predicting every Pac-12 team's game by game results(plus Utah State & BYU) working my way from worst record to best record on our way to the start of Fall Camp.

    Previous Teams:

    - Colorado 4-8(1-8)
    - Oregon State 5-7(2-7)
    - California 5-7(2-7)
    - Arizona 6-6(3-6)
    - Washington 7-6(3-6)
    - BYU 7-5
    - Washington State 7-5(4-5)
    - USC 7-5(4-5)
    - Utah State 8-5(5-3)
    - Arizona State 9-3(6-3)
    - Utah 9-3(6-3)
    - Oregon 9-3(7-2)

    Today's team, Stanford

    Record: 10-2(7-2)

    UC Davis - W
    USC - W
    Army - W
    BYE
    @ Washington - W
    @ Notre Dame - W
    Washington State - W
    @ Arizona State - L
    Oregon State - W
    @ Oregon - W
    BYE
    Utah - W
    @ California - W
    @ UCLA - L

    Once again Stanford will be a force in the Pac-12, but a couple of road losses will keep them out of the playoff. A North Division title with a great shot at the Rose Bowl will be their consolation prize. If they win, they will be guaranteed a spot in the Rose Bowl(because a 2 loss team isn't making the playoff). And if they lose, they will still probably go to the Rose because that means the Pac-12 champion is likely in the playoff.

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    Team #12 in my countdown to the start of Fall Camp.

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-01 12:51:39

    In case you missed it, I am predicting every Pac-12 team's game by game results(plus Utah State & BYU) working my way from worst record to best record on our way to the start of Fall Camp.

    Previous Teams:

    - Colorado 4-8(1-8)
    - Oregon State 5-7(2-7)
    - California 5-7(2-7)
    - Arizona 6-6(3-6)
    - Washington 7-6(3-6)
    - BYU 7-5
    - Washington State 7-5(4-5)
    - USC 7-5(4-5)
    - Utah State 8-5(5-3)
    - Arizona State 9-3(6-3)
    - Utah 9-3(6-3)

    Today's team, Oregon

    Record: 9-3(7-2)

    South Dakota - W
    Michigan State - L
    Wyoming - W
    @ Washington State - W
    BYE
    Arizona - W
    @ UCLA - L
    Washington - W
    @ California - W
    Stanford - L
    @ Utah - W
    BYE
    Colorado - W
    @ Oregon State - W

    Oregon has lost to Stanford 3 of the last 5 meetings, and Michigan State seems to play a very similar style to the Cardinal. The early loss to Michigan State will take the wind out of the Duck's national championship sails and they will coast to a 9-3 record with the only other losses coming against UCLA & Stanford.

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    Posted for SeaTac regarding advantageous weather that allowed UW/WSU/UA/ASU to have dramatic turn arounds from losing seasons to 8+ wins the following year.

    by UteThunder
    2014-08-01 10:51:32

    Tell that to the teams that had to play AZ and ASU with their 100+ degree weather for most games. Or those that play have to play in the rain most of the time against UW and WSU.

    - SeaTacUte


    University of Washington - Husky Stadium - Seattle, WA 98105

    2013
    August 31 Boise State - No precipitation reported.
    September 21 Idaho State - No precipitation reported.
    September 28 Arizona - No precipitation reported.
    October 12 Oregon - No precipitation reported.
    October 26 California - No precipitation reported.
    November 9 Colorado - No precipitation reported.
    November 29 Washington State - No precipitation reported.

    7 out of 7 home game days with ZERO precipitation reported.


    Washington State University - Martin Stadium - Pullman, WA 99164

    2013
    September 14 Southern Utah - Zero inches total precipitation, however there was a single report of precipitation during the 24 hour period.
    September 21 Idaho - Zero inches total precipitation, however there was a single report of precipitation during the 24 hour period.
    October 12 Oregon State - Zero inches total precipitation, however there was a single report of precipitation during the 24 hour period.
    October 31 Arizona State - Zero inches total precipitation, however there was a single report of precipitation during the 24 hour period.
    November 23 Utah - Zero inches total precipitation, however there was a single report of precipitation during the 24 hour period.

    Washington State University - Centurylink Field, Seattle, WA 98134

    September 28 Stanford - No precipitation reported.

    6 out of 6 home game days with ZERO total inches of precipitation reported. And while there were single reports of precipitation during the 24 hour period, it is not known if any of that TRACE precipitation occured during the 3 hour game window.


    Arizona State University - Sun Devil Stadium - Tempe, AZ 85281

    2013
    September 5 Sacramento State - High 111, Low 88, Average 99.6
    September 14 Wisconsin - High 105.1, Low 80.1, Average 93.6
    September 28 USC - High 91.9, Low 63, Average 77.1
    October 12 Colorado - High 87.1, Low 57, Average 71.2
    October 19 Washington - High 88, Low 57.9, Average72.8
    November 16 Oregon State - High 84, Low 62.1, Average 69
    November 30 Arizona - High 75, Low 50, Average 60.6
    December 7 Stanford - High 57.9, Low 36, Average 46

    5 out of 8 home games played on days with a high temp. of 88 or lower, and 6 out of 8 played on a day when the average temp. was 77.1 or lower.


    University of Arizona - Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ 85719

    2013
    August 30 Northern Arizona - High 91.4, Low 73, Average 79.5
    September 14 UTSA - High 96.6, Low 74.1, Average 86.4
    October 19 Utah - High 83.3, Low 46.8, Average 66
    November 9 UCLA - High 80.2, Low 52.2, Average 63.9
    November 16 Washington State - High 75.4, Low 55.9, Average 66.4
    November 23 Oregon - High 53.2, Low 46, Average 48.8

    4 out of 6 home games played on days with a high temp. of 83.3 or lower, and 6 out of 6 played on a day when the average temp. was 79.5 or lower.


    I have no doubt that over the last 20 years you have been attending games at UW that you have sat in the rain many times. But if the average number of times it rains during a Washington game during those twenty years is more than 1 or 2 times per season, I will eat my shoe. It does not rain during "most" of UW's & WSU's games. And many of the times it does rain, it's likely a sprinkle or a quick shower that has virtually no effect on the game.

    Same goes for the Arizona schools regarding 100 degree temperatures. They clearly play in some heat, but it isn't 100+ degrees for "most" of their games. Between the two of them there were only 2 games that MIGHT have been played in 100+ heat, and 3 more that MIGHT have been played in 90+ heat. I say MIGHT because we don't know what the temp. at kickoff was, only the high for the day. And I seriously doubt those schools make a habit of kicking off in the high heat of the day.

    Source: Farmersalmanac.com You can search for weather in a specific zip code on specific dates.

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    PDX, I don't know if this is what you had in mind when you asked for historical evidence that it is possible Utah could jump from 5-7 to 9-3 this year, but here you go.

    by UteThunder
    2014-07-31 16:20:40

    Every team in this conference has made a dramatic turn around very similar to what Utah would be doing by improving from 5-7 to 9-3. I've listed the turn arounds that equal a 3+ win improvement(except for one). And all of these are from the last 14 years. If these teams can do it, why can't Utah? How are these teams any different than Utah? And if your answer is that they have been in the conference longer so were better to begin with, I don't buy it. Many of these teams won fewer than the 5 games Utah has won the last two years so Utah has been every bit as good as these other teams before they made their huge jump in the win column.

    Arizona - 4-8 in 2011 to 8-5 in 2012 = +4 wins

    Arizona State - 4-7 in 2001 to 8-6 in 2002 = +4 wins
    Arizona State - 5-7 in 2003 to 9-3 in 2004 = +4 wins
    Arizona State - 6-7 in 2011 to 8-5 in 2012 = +2 wins

    California - 1-10 in 2001 to 7-5 in 2002 = +6 wins

    Colorado - 3-8 in 2000 to 10-3 in 2001 = +7 wins
    Colorado - 5-7 in 2003 to 8-5 in 2004 = +3 wins
    Colorado - 2-6 in 2006 to 6-7 in 2007 = +4 wins

    Oregon - 5-6 in 2004 to 10-2 in 2005 = +5 wins

    Oregon State - 5-6 in 2001 to 8-5 in 2002 = +3 wins
    Oregon State - 5-6 in 2005 to 10-4 in 2006 = +5 wins
    Oregon State - 3-9 in 2011 to 9-4 in 2012 = +6 wins

    Stanford - 5-6 in 2000 to 9-3 in 2001 = +4 wins
    Stanford - 5-7 in 2008 to 8-5 in 2009 = +3 wins

    UCLA - 6-6 in 2004 to 10-2 in 2005 = +4 wins
    UCLA - 6-8 in 2011 to 9-5 in 2012 = +3 wins

    USC - 6-6 in 2001 to 11-2 in 2002 = +5 wins
    USC - 0-1 in 2005 to 11-2 in 2006 = +10 wins
    (^^yes, this one is listed as a joke^^)

    Utah - 4-7 in 2000 to 8-4 in 2001 = +4 wins
    Utah - 5-6 in 2002 to 10-2 in 2003 = +5 wins

    Washington - 0-12 in 2008 to 5-7 in 2009 = +5 wins

    Washington State - 4-7 in 2000 to 10-2 in 2001 = +6 wins
    Washington State - 3-9 in 2012 to 6-7 in 2013 = +3 wins

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    Team #11 in my countdown to the start of Fall Camp.

    by UteThunder
    2014-07-31 12:08:41

    In case you missed it, I am predicting every Pac-12 team's game by game results(plus Utah State & BYU) working my way from worst record to best record on our way to the start of Fall Camp.

    Previous Teams:

    - Colorado 4-8(1-8)
    - Oregon State 5-7(2-7)
    - California 5-7(2-7)
    - Arizona 6-6(3-6)
    - Washington 7-6(3-6)
    - BYU 7-5
    - Washington State 7-5(4-5)
    - USC 7-5(4-5)
    - Utah State 8-5(5-3)
    - Arizona State 9-3(6-3)

    Today's team, Utah

    Record: 9-3(6-3)

    Idaho State - W
    Fresno State - W
    BYE
    @ Michigan - W
    Washington State - W
    @ UCLA - L
    BYE
    @ Oregon State - W
    USC - W
    @ Arizona State - W
    Oregon - L
    @ Stanford - L
    Arizona - W
    @ Colorado - W

    Looks like you were right Tacoma. I know 9-3 is extremely optimistic, but I just look at last year and can't help but think Utah is on the verge of breaking through. Utah was so close to posting this exact record last year, and we had all sorts of issues at QB. With healthy/better QB play, and hopefully Pac-12 depth, we pull those close games out this year.

    Buckle up Ute fans, it's going to be an awesome season!




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    Team #10 in my countdown to the start of Fall Camp.

    by UteThunder
    2014-07-30 14:02:52

    In case you missed it, I am predicting every Pac-12 team's game by game results(plus Utah State & BYU) working my way from worst record to best record on our way to the start of Fall Camp.

    Previous Teams:

    - Colorado 4-8(1-8)
    - Oregon State 5-7(2-7)
    - California 5-7(2-7)
    - Arizona 6-6(3-6)
    - Washington 7-6(3-6)
    - BYU 7-5
    - Washington State 7-5(4-5)
    - USC 7-5(4-5)
    - Utah State 8-5(5-3)

    Today's team, Arizona State

    Record: 9-3(6-3)

    Weber State - W
    @ New Mexico - W
    @ Colorado - W
    BYE
    UCLA - L
    @ USC - L
    BYE
    Stanford - W
    @ Washington - W
    Utah - L
    Notre Dame - W
    @ Oregon State - W
    Washington State - W
    @ Arizona - W

    ASU only returns 3 starters on defense, but they return 7 starters on offense including their QB. I'm looking for ASU to win a lot of shootouts. The 3 picks that stand out the most to me are the wins over Stanford and Notre Dame and the loss to Utah.

    Stanford: ASU gets a bye week to prepare for a team that beat them twice last year; once at home and once on the road. The combination of the extra week and revenge will fuel the Sun Devils to an upset win over the Cardinal.

    Utah: The win was right there for the taking last year, but Utah couldn't seal the deal. That will change this year partly due to ASU looking past Utah just a bit towards Notre Dame.

    Notre Dame: I've not been impressed with Notre Dame the last few years. Even when they made it to the BCS title game, they seemed like a team that relied on a ton of luck to get there. After the 37-34 loss to the Irish in Texas last year, the Sun Devils will once again have revenge on their minds.

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    It's hilarious that BYU claims to be a "special" place where their players live a higher standard. Or should I say, PRETEND to live a higher standard?

    by UteThunder
    2014-07-30 11:03:10

    Lost all respect for some BYU players today! #smdh #snitchesgetstitches


    Source

    Sorry BYU, just like it was in the 80s & 90s, you have a lot of players that participate in the same "sinful" behaviors that go on at every university in the country. #stop pretending

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    Team #9 in my countdown to the start of Fall Camp.

    by UteThunder
    2014-07-29 10:50:38

    In case you missed it, I am predicting every Pac-12 team's game by game results(plus Utah State & BYU) working my way from worst record to best record on our way to the start of Fall Camp.

    Previous Teams:

    - Colorado 4-8(1-8)
    - Oregon State 5-7(2-7)
    - California 5-7(2-7)
    - Arizona 6-6(3-6)
    - Washington 7-6(3-6)
    - BYU 7-5
    - Washington State 7-5(4-5)
    - Utah State 8-5(5-3)

    Today's team, USC

    Record: 7-5(5-4)

    Fresno State - W
    @ Stanford - L
    @ Boston College - W
    BYE
    Oregon State - L
    Arizona State - W
    @ Arizona - W
    Colorado - W
    @ Utah - L
    @ Washington State - L
    BYE
    California - W
    @ UCLA - L
    Notre Dame - W

    I made a bit of a mistake when making my predictions and listed USC with an 8-4 record even though I had them losing 5, so I apologize for getting a bit out of order.

    Moving on.

    I'm not convinced Sarkisian is going to be the homerun hire USC thinks he is. At Washington he went 7-6 three years in a row before going 8-4 in his final year. That tells me either it is going to take him some time to get things going in L.A. or I am right that he is a good but not great coach. Either way, there will be some first year struggles.

    In the WTF game of the year in the Pac-12, Mike Riley takes advantage of some "new coach's system" mistakes to get a shocking win in the coliseum. Utah & WSU are on the rise and will take advantage of playing at home against a new coach. Stanford & UCLA should need no explanation; they are the cream of the crop right now and will be playing at home.

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    Top 10 Most Recently Posted Messages:

    "This BYU team . . . just looks impotent against Utah." - Yep, that one is my favorite.
    (1 day ago, 3 stars)

    I really felt it was a mix of both. Michigan clearly didn't respect his ability to pass.
    (1 day ago, 1 stars)

    My Ute dreams usually involve me being on the team and being stressed to the max because I don't know any of the plays but they keep putting me in the game.
    (1 day ago, 4 stars)

    Considering Utah & BYU started from the same place and have ended up in very different circumstances, it is very natural to compare our current situation to theirs. As has always been the case, feel free to un-check the category.
    (1 day ago, 3 stars)

    Don't want to burst your bubble, but the bye week comes AFTER we play UCLA.
    (1 day ago, 3 stars)

    Not very many likely or realistically possible losses for top 25 teams this week. Looks like Utah will need to beat Wazzu & UCLA to join the top 25.
    (1 day ago, 1 stars)

    May God bless Collin for his good taste and bless your ward member for his awesomeness.
    (1 day ago, 1 stars)

    I can't help you out with a winning boat design. As for the DnF or Block U, I would say the DnF is the better option but it will be more difficult to get it right. Block U will be easier and more sensible choice.
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    I give him credit for putting the ball in the correct hand and putting out the correct arm & leg for the pose. Lucky he wasn't flagged.
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    I sure hope you're right. I had them going 7-5 or 8-4 with 2 of the losses coming in the first 3 weeks. They haven't looked amazing, but they have definitely surprised me to this point.
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    What list?
    (1 day ago, 1 stars)

    They very well could fold, but, how many of their remaining opponents have a defense with a pulse?
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    Michigan might be down, but I don't think they are nearly as down as many would have us believe.
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    Tracking my Pac-12(plus BYU & Utah State) pre-season picks, Week 4
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    Utah doesn't honor handshake agreements, just ask their fans . . . %)
    (1 day ago, 2 stars)

    I think they just throw their shortest WR in the backfield and call him a running-back.
    (2 days ago, 1 stars)

    Any idea where his winning pct. ranks? I would imagine it is second only to Urban.
    (2 days ago, 0 stars)

    No wonder Michigan is struggling. Hoke is coaching while unconscious . . . ;)
    (2 days ago, 3 stars)

    At least we didn't miss this one in favor of Harry Potter %) Stupid channel 4.
    (2 days ago, 4 stars)

    Thanks, it's that whole blind squirrel finding nuts business.
    (3 days ago, 0 stars)

    Hahaha but seriously, based on their declining win totals, and the absolute train wreck that was the RichRod era; I'd bet 75% of their 4 & 5 star recruit ratings are inflated due to Michigan offering.
    (3 days ago, 2 stars)

    How many of their 4 & 5 star recruits are only such because they were recruited by Michigan?
    (3 days ago, 2 stars)

    It is on abc for approximately 75% of the country(Utah included). The rest of the country will be able to see it on either ESPN or ESPN2; I forget which one.
    (3 days ago, 1 stars)

    Utah wins by a score that makes it look closer than it actually was . . . Utah 44 - Michigan 17
    (3 days ago, 3 stars)

    My understanding is that Pac-12 teams usually use Pac-12 officials for home games and use the other conference's officials for road games. I don't know what Utah typically puts in the contract.
    (6 days ago, 0 stars)

    I believe he was commenting on the stadium noise rather than comparing Utah in any way to Miami(OH).
    (7 days ago, 0 stars)

    If SOS is as important as we have all been led to believe, then yes, BYU will be very disappointed.
    (8 days ago, 0 stars)

    Re-read my last paragraph.
    (8 days ago, 1 stars)

    Most voters look at final scores and overall records. They can't watch every game.
    (8 days ago, 1 stars)

    How many players do we have on the team from Illinois? Zero. How many do you expect to be on the team after the Northern Illinois series? I say Zero. Schulz from WI is the closest we have to the Chicago area.
    (8 days ago, 1 stars)

    Not Washington. Aside from a convincing win over Illinois, the Huskies have looked pretty bad despite their 3-0 record. I will say BYU is too high though, based on who they have played and how they have looked; should be 25, maybe 24.
    (8 days ago, 1 stars)

    On the topic of Utah State saying they will only play Utah if it is on equal terms:
    (8 days ago, 4 stars)

    I disagree. If Utah wins convincingly at Michigan, we could be in as soon as next Sunday. If not then, a win over Wazzu the following week would almost certainly put a 4-0 Utah in the top 25. Of course, we will need some help via losses by the top 25
    (8 days ago, 1 stars)

    Give me a sword and I will give you a tranquilizer gun. I'll stand 20 feet from you and you can shoot me AFTER I start running at you. I guarantee I will be able to reach you and take multiple swings with my sword before I go down.
    (8 days ago, 3 stars)

    Give me a sword and I will give you pepper spray. Tell me what you think your chances of walking away unharmed are? How about your chances of living?
    (8 days ago, 1 stars)

    So if the initial shot is fired while he is facing them right after he lunges at them and in the split seconds(1-3) after the initial shot is fired he turns his back as the police continue shooting, you think the police were in the wrong?
    (8 days ago, 0 stars)

    Oh my god. Are you #%!@ing kidding me?
    (8 days ago, 0 stars)

    Tracking my Pac-12(plus BYU & Utah State) pre-season picks, Week 3
    (8 days ago, 0 stars)

    I'm not sure Nevada has proven anything yet. 28-19 win over Southern Utah, 24-13 win over what looks like a bad WSU team, and currently losing to Arizona.
    (9 days ago, 0 stars)

    *G5
    (9 days ago, 0 stars)

    You guys talk as if He is coming off of 3 straight losing seasons.
    (9 days ago, 0 stars)

    Washington looking much better in week 3 - Up 35-5 over Illinois in the 2nd quarter.
    (9 days ago, 2 stars)

    d) It is revealed that the NFL is really just the WWE in shoulder pads & helmets. See the NBA for reference.
    (9 days ago, 3 stars)

    Very true, but the same could be said about Utah looking better these past two weeks. Michigan is the perfect test. A good but not great team that will finish in the top half of the B1G. A win = Utah is much improved. A loss = Utah is about the same.
    (9 days ago, 3 stars)

    "it does go both ways." - - - This would be more accurate and is what I should have said.
    (9 days ago, 0 stars)

    Refs who don't respect the coaches??? I think you have that backwards.
    (9 days ago, 0 stars)

    While this is true, it isn't the reason for two bye weeks. Every team in the country has two bye weeks except for teams that play Hawaii and play the 13th game.
    (9 days ago, 1 stars)

    I hope the Utes never improve SOS while playing . . . because that will mean Utah lost. ;)
    (9 days ago, 0 stars)

    I do too, but this thread isn't about Michigan. Feel free to start a thread about Michigan if that is what you would like to talk about right now.
    (9 days ago, 4 stars)

    Since it's our bye week, and we would be playing BYU today if not for the 2 year break, here are some fun rivalry numbers. Feel free to share them with your local BYU fan when they try to say Utah has only had 2 or 3 good seasons.
    (9 days ago, 4 stars)

    The announcers tried to justify/rationalize it by saying you're allowed to be physical and deliver shots to the body while blocking. My problem with that is that I have never seen an OL deliver a shot to the body with a closed fist like this.
    (10 days ago, 1 stars)

    Thanks. The 3D block U just looks so "modern" to me whereas the other block U looks more traditional.
    (10 days ago, 0 stars)

    BYU only gets in a NY6 bowl if the rest of the top 12 teams not selected for the CFP have 2+ losses. Every 1 loss P5 team, and a few 2 loss P5 teams, will be selected over an undefeated BYU.
    (10 days ago, 2 stars)

    My input . . .
    (10 days ago, 1 stars)

    I have heard two different rumors regarding the scheduling break . . .
    (11 days ago, 1 stars)

    Goodell will come out of this unscathed. There will be a lower level NFL executive who will take the fall with a golden parachute.
    (12 days ago, 0 stars)

    I was going to wait to see what he was accused of before posting this, but FYI: in certain circumstances the police are justified in shooting an unarmed suspect, even in the back.
    (13 days ago, 1 stars)

    Haven't heard anything about this story. What did the suspect/victim do prior to the police shooting him?
    (13 days ago, 0 stars)

    And Jesus is back-back-back-back-back-back . . . !!!
    (14 days ago, 3 stars)

    In the internet age where clicks/views equals money, you will see this more going forward. Including both schools in the headline gets fans from both sides to click on the article.
    (14 days ago, 1 stars)

    Hilarious. Make sure you have the sound on for full effect.
    (14 days ago, 5 stars)

    In terms of current QB, Wilson is 2-3 on the road in games he starts and finishes. 2-5 if you count the Arizona & USC games from last year where he was clearly playing injured and left both games due to the injury.
    (15 days ago, 3 stars)

    Yes, I'll actually be tuning in to that show to see how he does.
    (15 days ago, 0 stars)

    What road monkey? Sure, the road record hasn't been great the last few years, but Utah has road wins over Pitt, Wazzu, Colorado, Arizona, & BYU(2) over the last 3 seasons.
    (15 days ago, 0 stars)

    ^^^^^^This^^^^^^^
    (15 days ago, 1 stars)

    Would be interesting for sure. I don't think they would gut the fieldhouse though. It is so old I think they would just re-build it.
    (15 days ago, 0 stars)

    A better fix, possibly cheaper too: Tunnel the trax line and South Campus Drive below the surface allowing for the North Concourse to expand straight out from where it is and make an open plaza similar to the South Concourse.
    (15 days ago, 1 stars)

    I can hear it now: "If the playoffs were played in September . . . "
    (15 days ago, 0 stars)

    They are missing 4 key components for being selected
    (15 days ago, 4 stars)

    I have no doubt it was a person with disabilities or possibly a 3 or 4 year old that couldn't hold it. There is no way a "normal" person (drunk or otherwise) could get away with dropping a deuce in the concourse and not get caught by someone.
    (15 days ago, 1 stars)

    I really doubt his intent was to kick the punter in the face. It looks like he tried to hurdle him but jumped a little early and/or not high enough to clear him.
    (15 days ago, 2 stars)

    Really don't know what to make of Arizona. They looked great against UNLV, but not so great against a surprisingly talented UTSA team. That UNLV win doesn't look so good now after seeing UNLV struggled to beat Northern Colorado 13-12 yesterday.
    (15 days ago, 0 stars)

    Unless Michigan wets the bed against Miami(Ohio) I'm guessing the line will be Michigan -1 to -3.5.
    (15 days ago, 0 stars)

    More important, Utah is receiving votes in the AP Poll.
    (15 days ago, 5 stars)

    Challenge . . . . . not accepted.
    (15 days ago, 4 stars)

    And here's the numbers for anyone interested . . .
    (15 days ago, 3 stars)

    Yep, that's what I will do. Changes made.
    (15 days ago, 0 stars)

    Because I went through each team's schedule individually to make my picks, I thought I would count the results that way as well. What do you think, should I only count games? I'm thinking that would be easier.
    (15 days ago, 0 stars)

    The difference between P5 & G5 is real and far greater than any of us could have imagined when we were in the MWC.
    (15 days ago, 6 stars)

    Definitely not enough data at this point for his system to make accurate rankings.
    (15 days ago, 0 stars)

    Mack Brown hadn't dismissed a bunch of players either. Unless the Sooners experience a bunch of injuries, they will curb-stomp this Longhorn team.
    (15 days ago, 2 stars)

    Tracking my Pac-12(plus BYU & Utah State) pre-season picks, week 2
    (15 days ago, 0 stars)

    If Texas can avoid turning the ball over more than twice today, they will win; anymore than that and it becomes a toss up.
    (16 days ago, 0 stars)

    Colorado holds off the mighty 0-2 Minutemen of UMass, 41-38.
    (16 days ago, 1 stars)

    Ah, but we appear to be a better team than in 2011.
    (16 days ago, 0 stars)

    Sure wish we had Washington on the schedule this year. Struggle to beat Hawaii and now E. Washington is giving them everything they can handle: Only up 37-31 at half.
    (16 days ago, 2 stars)

    Drum and Feather all the way. If we ever go away from it my preferences would be, in order: 1) Drop the feathers and keep the drum(circle) around the Red block U, 2) A single Block U, 3) Interlocking U's but I really don't like them all that much.
    (17 days ago, 0 stars)

    I don't think so. If the NCAA hands down little to no punishments, I guarantee BYU will make sure the world knows about it. I believe silence means the NCAA hasn't ruled yet.
    (17 days ago, 6 stars)

    I don't know where you are seeing that, but Army only plays 2 P5 teams in 2014.
    (18 days ago, 1 stars)

    At the time the games were scheduled, UTSA was just starting their program from nothing. I don't think anyone expected them to be any good for at least 10 years.
    (20 days ago, 1 stars)

    I save my compassion for my own loved ones and people in horrible circumstances through no fault of their own. A pro athlete who gets busted for stealing and drugs (and his family) does not qualify.
    (20 days ago, 3 stars)

    Excellent points. Especially on the lack of accountability for Max's rant. Not only did the media give him a pass, they applauded his "honesty" and continue to do so even today.
    (20 days ago, 8 stars)

    I heard it on the radio. They were reading from the police report which was released to the media.
    (20 days ago, 0 stars)

    Here's where I come down on this story.
    (20 days ago, 7 stars)

    If they have a problem with that, maybe they can talk to the CB poster who tracks Salt Lake County booking photos looking for anyone who happens to be wearing Utah gear when arrested and has put together a cute little collage as his sig pic.
    (20 days ago, 10 stars)

    Well, because he played college football he was, is, and always will be a "kid" and therefore is above reproach. %)
    (20 days ago, 4 stars)

    There have been rumors of Rx narcotics being handed out like candy down at BYU going all the way back to the 80s. If true, the BYU staff is playing an active role in players who go on to become addicts.
    (20 days ago, 7 stars)

    As someone said on the radio, 'If Utah can find a way to beat BYU with Jon Hays, Texas should be fine.'
    (21 days ago, 9 stars)

    How dare you imply that increased SOS is responsible for our recent struggles! Everyone knows it is because of bad coaching and bad recruiting!
    (21 days ago, 0 stars)

    No more so than a "missed FG" would be, which it wouldn't. I believe a turnover on downs only occurs when the offense attempts to pickup a 1st down or a TD by running a play from scrimmage. A failed fake FG or punt would also qualify as a TOD.
    (21 days ago, 0 stars)

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