Let's just put this whole 'byu - were they or weren't they considered for an invite from the Pac-12?' thing to bed.
by UteThunder 2015-06-19 10:09:09
A good friend of mine(a byu fan) has a brother who works in the Pac-12 administration. Not for a Pac-12 school, but for the Pac-12 Conference.
I have verified the brother's position with the Pac-12 and he is someone who works directly with Larry Scott, was part of the decision making process, and would definitely be privy to this type of information.
According to the brother, byu was never even considered by the Pac-12 decision makers. No presentations. No discussions. No contact with byu. At no time was byu ever brought up in Pac-12 expansion meetings.
Utah offered everything byu had to offer, and then some, and brought none of the baggage.
This brother also said the Pac-12 will never consider byu for future expansion.
Pluses of the 2015 schedule; not the teams on it, but rather the circumstances surrounding when the games are played.
by UteThunder 2015-06-14 10:03:05
9/3: Michigan - Get Harbaugh's team in its first game and it is in SLC on a Thursday night, something Michigan has never done before.
9/11: Utah State - Both the Utes and the Aggies open on a Thursday, so there is no preparation advantage but it will be nice for Utah to have 8 days, instead of 7, to recover from what will likely be a very physical game against the Wolverines.
9/19: @ Fresno State - Coming off of a Friday game the Utes get an extra day to prepare for this road game and the Bulldogs will be coming off of a very tough and long road trip at Ole Miss.
10/10: California - Utah will be coming off of a bye and the game is at home.
10/24: @ USC - This game is sandwiched between two rivalry road games for the Trojans: @ Notre Dame and @ Cal. It's not a trap game, but if we are going to play USC on the road I think this is a nice time to do it.
11/7: @ Washington - It's on the road, but we catch the Huskies at the tail end of a tough stretch of games for them. They go @ USC, v Oregon, @ Stanford, v Arizona before playing Utah and then they have @ ASU to look forward to the following week. Brutal, for them.
11/14: @ Arizona - Similar circumstances to the USC road game; the Wildcats play Utah between games @ USC and @ Arizona State. On top of that, the Wildcats don't have a bye until the final week of the season which means this will be their 11th game in as many weeks. And it is in November, great time to play in Tucson.
11/21: UCLA - SLC in late November should be a bit chillier than the Bruins are use to and they play @ USC the following week.
- Not a single team has a bye week or extra prep time from playing a Thursday/Friday game the week before playing Utah.
After seeing TheJuggernaut's post a few pages back saying he has heard that Chris Hill is looking for a big name opponent to replace BYU with in '17 & '18, I decided to take a look at any teams that might fit the bill and whether they might have openings that match up.
For Hill to sell any cancellation or postponement of the '17-'18 BYU games to the media and the general fanbase, the new opponent has to be from a P5 conference obviously, but I believe it would have to be one of the bigger names from those conferences; similar to the way the Michigan series was announced as a "couldn't pass it up opportunity". With that in mind, I didn't bother looking at teams like Indiana or Duke.
Here's the list of teams with openings in 2017 & 2018.
ACC: Florida State, Miami*
BigXII: Kansas State, Oklahoma*, TCU, TX Tech**, West Virginia
I have been one of those fans thinking the BYU game should continue to be played. But I actually enjoyed not having them on the schedule last year and I am looking forward to not having to play them again this year.
Having the Aggies come back on the schedule this year has me thinking the idea of getting on a rotation between BYU and USU sounds really appealing, especially if there is any way Utah could get a 2-for-1 out of the Aggies to make the rotation work on a 5 year basis.
If we were only going to play one of them going forward, at this point I think I would prefer to play the Aggies.
Responding to annarborUte's request for 2008 and later recruiting numbers . . .
by UteThunder 2015-04-28 22:25:32
Utah recruiting rankings - Rivals:
2008 - #60 (prior to the Sugar Bowl season)
2009 - #44 (signing day was post Sugar Bowl, but many of this years recruits were committed prior to the 13-0 run; still, a nice little recruiting bump)
2010 - #32 (here is where we see the real fruits of the '08 season followed by the 10-3 '09 season; worth noting, this class signed prior to the Pac-12 invite but the rumors had already begun)
2011 - #37 (pretty much the same spot as the year before, the Sugar Bowl luster was probably beginning to fade, however, the Pac-12 excitement likely picked up the slack and a second straight 10-3 season didn't hurt either)
2012 - #28 (following an 8-5 inaugural season in the Pac-12 including a Sun Bowl victory, it is clear the Pac-12 is helping with recruiting)
2013 - #44 (after going 5-7 the ranking drops a fair amount, that's weird, but I would imagine the drop would've been even greater if Utah was still in the MWC)
2014 - #67 (back to back 5-7 seasons result in the ranking dropping even further, a total mystery; again, if Utah was still in the MWC I would expect the drop to be greater than it was)
2015 - #41 (9-4 with a Vegas Bowl victory and the ranking climbs significantly, funny how that works)
Looking at these rankings reveals 3 facts:
#1 - There was a Sugar Bowl bump.
#2 - The expected fall back to recruiting normality was staved off by the Pac-12 invite.
#3 - Conference affiliation without on-field success will result in lackluster recruiting and vice versa.
Bottom line - Utah will never be USC and without multiple NY6 bowls or CFP appearances within a short time frame, nobody should ever expect Utah's recruiting rankings to be in the top 25 consistently.
Best bracket on Yahoo's Tourney Pick 'Em has 38 of 40 games picked correctly so far. I don't know if he is a Ute fan or not, but he has Utah in the Final Four. Just thought it was interesting that someone who has picked so well thus far has Utah.....
by UteThunder 2015-03-21 22:28:58
...making it that deep into the tournament. We lose to Louisville in his bracket.
Assuming A-Rod is the OC, take the following into consideration before passing judgement.
by UteThunder 2015-01-05 21:23:14
A-Rod does have experience as an OC.
A-Rod will give this team a bit of continuity at OC as opposed to the option of bringing in someone from another team.
A-Rod was actually a pretty good OC in comparison to what we have had since he was demoted. In fact, I would say his offense was the most productive we've had since Ludwig.
A-Rod is much more experienced as a coach this go around, and he has worked under Chow, BJ, Erickson, and Christensen. Hopefully he's learned a thing or two since 2010, even if what he has learned is what NOT to do.
This might not be a homerun hire/promotion, but it isn't a bad one either.
However, this season, when a contestant is eliminated from the show they aren't actually eliminated. They are sent to "Comeback Canyon" where they compete against another previously eliminated contestant for one week; highest percentage of weight lost stays and takes on the next eliminated contestant. At the end of the season, the survivor of Comeback Canyon will be back on the show for the finale and a chance to win the whole thing.
Scott has been at this "Comeback Canyon" for the last 3 episodes and won again last night by losing 9 lbs in one week.
So far, Scott has lost 124 lbs.
Starting weight: 366 lbs.
Current Weight: 242 lbs.
Couple of quick notes/reminders:
This doesn't include the first half of '09 when Schramm was in the booth.
True Freshman, Jordan Wynn, took over in the second half of that Wyoming game.
Wynn suffered an injury to his throwing shoulder against Iowa State and was hampered by that the rest of the year.
Those were some damn good TCU teams.
How many wide open, sure TDs, were dropped in the first half of that BSU game?
So, with BYU being an independent, I was curious as to what type of punishments their players would be subject to for the brawl from the NCAA.
by UteThunder 2014-12-23 13:16:36
According to the NCAA rule book, all players involved in the fight with remaining eligibility will be suspended for the first half of their first game next year.
However, there is some grey area with the rule and we all know how BYU likes to use loopholes to get around the rules.
The grey area is this: the NCAA rule for fighting only specifies that fighting is not allowed before a game, during a game, and during halftime of a game. There is no mention of fighting immediately following a game.
It will be interesting to see how the NCAA, AAC, Memphis, and BYU handle this situation.
I have a hard time believing this is true, but it might explain the over the top celebration by BYU yesterday.
by UteThunder 2014-11-30 14:40:24
Over this holiday weekend I had a discussion with an individual claiming to be well connected to the BYU athletic department. I'm putting this under rumors because I don't know this person very well and I am having a hard time believing his story.
He claims Bronco's recent contract extension was nothing more than an insurance policy for recruiting because this is his last season. BYU didn't want a lame duck HC hurting recruiting, plus the season long distraction of who will be his replacement. He will wait until after NLI signing day 2015 to quit. The other half of this story is that Robert Anae is expected to be named as their next HC.
Bronco could have been coaching his final regular season game which I guess could explain the over the top celebration for beating a 5 win Cal team.
Like I said at the top, I have a hard time believing this, however, it does seem plausible.
Update: Scott Mitchell on The Biggest Loser TV show
by UteThunder 2014-10-20 20:45:56
I'm not sure if anyone has been following Scott Mitchell on the Biggest Loser. I thought I would give an update for anyone interested in how he is doing, but not interested in actually watching the show.
He is still on the show and doing well.
I believe they just finished week 6; after a starting weight of 366 lbs, Scott lost 7 lbs this past week and is down to 295 lbs for a total weight loss of 71 lbs so far. By the way, He is on the Red Team(woot woot!)
Remember when people were questioning why Travis Wilson wasn't a team captain again? I'm pretty sure the coaches worried the current circumstances could come to fruition and didn't want the awkwardness of benching a team captain.
by UteThunder 2014-10-06 17:07:56
Good foresight on their part, although, if KT is really the better option it would have been even better if the foresight had included picking the right guy to start from day 1.
Probably won't happen, but BYU could be facing a 5 game losing streak.
by UteThunder 2014-10-05 18:53:41
After Friday night's loss to the Aggies, their next 4 opponents could be set-up to beat BYU.
Thur. 10/9: @ UCF - The Knights played on Thursday, BYU played on Friday and it's a long road trip.
Sat. 10/18: Nevada - The Wolfpack won't have the advantage of extra prep time, but they are 3-2 with the two losses coming on the road against undefeated Arizona(35-28) and at home to 4-2 Boise State(51-46).
Fri. 10/24: @ BSU - The Broncos will play Fresno on the preceding Friday, BYU will play on Saturday; and the game will be on the blue turf.
Sat. 11/1: @ MTSU - The Blue Raiders will be coming off of a bye and BYU has to once again fly across the country.
All of these games are winnable, but there are circumstances which will give 3 of these teams an advantage over BYU. Throw in the injuries they suffered Saturday night and BYU could realistically lose all 4 of these games resulting in a 5 game losing streak.
My prediction is 2-2 with losses against UCF and BSU.
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