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    I don't have to admire them for holding to their homophobic beliefs, and I don't.

    by Hayes6
    2016-08-24 10:26:47

    There is nothing admirable about sticking to religious beliefs if those beliefs result in policies that harm innocent people.

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    Count me among Ute fans who would be happy to see Utah drop BYU from all future schedules...

    by UtahFanSir
    2016-08-24 09:02:58

    ...that said, grudgingly you have to admire BYU for holding to strongly held religious convictions that define the LDS faith. Do I agree with the Honor Code LGBT discrimination, not at all. I think it is wrong. But I not convinced that the LDS church is in the wrong here legally, not yet. And I think the LDS faith has every right to not permit Sunday play for the university, while we all know any pro athlete from BYU plays sports on Sunday.

    As a consequence, the letter here forwards an opinion some will agree with in sentiment, but cannot fully agree with in principle. I will go further to say the opinion letter is petty. The LGBT "issue" remains an incredible divide for many of us. Personally, I want to see all discrimination end, but I do understand the position of many if not most churches on the issue, even if I don't agree with it.

    The one good thing about BYU going to a P5 conference is the toughness of the schedule. While I type that, I note that BYU has a tough schedule this year. But in the B12, for example, I believe BYU would reside in the bottom half of the conference in performance in football for a long time. That alone would be nice to see. It would be satisfying on one level to see their collection head-deflation. Better yet, it would be awesome to see a whole new set of programs hate the Zoo for what the Zoobs do, play dirty.

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    These people?

    by H-man
    2016-08-24 13:48:59

    Don't think they'll care too much.

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    I just went back and looked at the previous results of the rivalry series

    by ironman1315
    2016-08-24 12:40:58

    Fun fact, we haven't trailed since the fourth quarter of 2010. That is some domination right there gentlemen.

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    Utah football in the Bay Area - 2 games + game watches

    by Riles23
    2016-08-24 12:27:53

    Bay Area Utes,

    The Utes are coming to the Bay Area twice for football, and we have you covered. Below are links to both games, where you can sit with other Utes fans!

    @San Jose State, Sat. 9/17 - 7:30p, $25 (seat reads as $43, but when you click the seat, it shows $25).

    https://oss.ticketmaster.com/aps/sjsuathl etics/EN/link/promotion/home/2298b68379cf6 92754e9977497b92e71672720f2

    ENTER CODE: BAYAREAUTES ($18 savings & $5 from each ticket goes to the Bay Area Alumni Chapter Scholarship fund)

    @ Cal, Sat. 10/1 - www.calbears.com/code - Enter UTAHCAL16
    ($10 of each ticket goes to our scholarship fund)

    Can't make the above games? Calendar the below dates for our game watches. We'll meet at Pete's Tavern (128 King Street, SF, CA) for the highlighted games below.

    Sept. 10 Brigham Young Salt Lake City
    Sept. 23 (Fri.) USC* Salt Lake City
    Oct. 8 Arizona* (hc) Salt Lake City
    Oct. 22 at UCLA* Los Angeles
    Nov. 19 Oregon* Salt Lake City

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    by jts_ute
    2016-08-24 11:36:08

    I know a lot of Ute fans are LDS but I'm sorry, all too often religious people are praised for "sticking to their beliefs" even though society as a whole has progressed. I find nothing admirable about sticking to incorrect beliefs in the face of changing evidence.

    Religion (and specifically the LDS church) has been consistently slow to change its perception about race, gender and other social issues. Whether it's the Mormon view of African descended people being "less valiant" in the pre-existence and being denied the priesthood or the subservience of women to men in the Mormon culture (polygamy, covenanting to obey one's husband in the temple, etc). Sure these things HAVE changed from early church until today, but that change has been slow as molasses and has no where near kept pace with society as a whole.

    Past LDS leaders used to teach that homosexuality was a sinful nature that was brought on oneself because of masturbation habits or other "impure" acts. As those leaders die off, current leaders admit that "same sex attraction" is something that is born into a person and can't be helped, but say it is a sin to act on it. What will future leaders say? Your guess is as good as mine. So what is a person supposed to do? Live a life of celibacy they say. Pray the gay away.

    The LDS church is on the wrong side of social history. Again. Nothing laudable about it.

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    As some of you know, I live on 13th east right below the Rice Eccles.

    by H-man
    2016-08-24 12:52:17

    They're practicing with all the new stuff right now and I can hear EVERY word the announcer is saying while working in my garage. With the door closed.

    So the new sound system should be pretty inclredible, albeit ugly.

    8. Freaking. Days.

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    Taysom 3 minutes into the game...

    by annarborute
    2016-08-24 21:19:36


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    Did I read that right? Your worst-case scenario has Utah 9-3 (6-3)? Yeah...

    by KyleWouldDoIt
    2016-08-24 09:44:15

    Pass me some of whatever has 3 losses as our potential worst-case scenario.

    I think our worst-case scenario is something like 5-7 (3-6) and involves a slew a key injuries, a team that commits a ton of penalties, doesn't improve in the throw game, turns the ball over a lot, and can't force turnovers like they did last year, resulting in a few close WTF losses (including one OOC loss).

    I'm not trying to piss in our collective cereal, but let's not forget that we had to force an insane number of turnovers last season to win 10 games. While our defense should be good, I wouldn't be surprised to see less takeaways this year. A few less takeaways in a few key games last year and we only win 7 or 8 games.

    For the record, I see our best-case scenario as 11-1 (8-1).

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    People were saying Hatfield robbed someone at gunpoint and Butler-Byrd had multiple serious offenses. I pointed out that they were factually incorrect with both, and people went nuts.

    by scratch
    2016-08-24 09:10:08

    One guy dug up my posting history over here, including a picture of Cosby wearing a Y sweater (it was for Yale, but looks identical), and went off on me for making rape jokes. Another person went off on me for being anti-LDS for posting that picture, which is absurd because I think anyone who has followed those discussions here knows I'm one of the most outspoken defenders of the LDS church here. Apparently criticizing BYU's horrible policy on rape reporting makes you anti-LDS.

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    Art of War. He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious. Know your enemy

    by The Thrill
    2016-08-24 09:36:04

    I like to read Cougarboard so I'm in tune with their thoughts. I run into a Zoob every now and then and love to use what they've discussed against them. FTR I don't post there, well not as a Ute just lurk.

    Like a post from yesterday who calls CBB a hardened criminal. I'm not defending CBB actions but he wasn't robbing a 7-11 at gunpoint.

    Another poster this morning truly believes Utah follows a pattern of corruptness. Players getting in trouble with the law and getting little to no punishment from the team...ahem, Niasi Leota?

    Ironic coming from a school that looks the other way and blames the victim in a rape case.

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    RE: First there was the Mangum Meadows Massage.

    by mokus
    2016-08-24 17:07:41

    That joke is about breaking a commandment, and for that reason I don't find it funny. It is repulsive, disrespectful and should not be acceptable in everyday society. I'm calling my congressman to make laws against this kind of activity.

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