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    I want to share a personal story in light of the FSU QB hitting a woman in the bar and the discussions that have gone on from the act itself.

    by ReconMarine74
    2015-07-06 18:06:03

    I was raised by a single mother who had me when she was 17 years old. My biological "father" left when I was a year old. My mother being young and inexperienced dated a few guys throughout my childhood who were less than men themselves but more like animals. My mother does have a temper or developed one probably from having to do everything on her own. Needless to say I watched her get thrown around, punched, kicked on several occasions by men who thought it was their God given right to "put a woman in her place". I watched this happen for years!
    It was when I was 7 years old that one of her many beatings led to a kid to say no more! They had been at it all night. My mom was angry because he was drinking again. She slapped him during the argument and he proceeded to grab her by the hair, dragged her into the kitchen and turned on the stove top. With my my mom struggling and crying he pushed her face towards the burner and I could see and smell her hair burning on the stove. I can still smell it today....weird. I remember running into my moms room, getting in her closet, and grabbing her tennis racket. I ran back into the kitchen and started hitting him as hard as I could swing the racket. I doubt I did much damage he was a big guy but he let my mom go and just stood their staring at me. I was for sure he was going to kill me. But he staired at me and after a few seconds said....good job. And that was it. He grabbed his things and left. My mom and I never saw or heard from him again. I swore my whole life that I would never be like him or any of them! I promised my mom that I would protect her until the day I die. She promised to make changes and to make a better life for both of us. She did!
    Those times growing up watching and seeing what I did changed me. It changed me for the better! I joined the Marines and I was a cop for four years. I wanted to help people. I wanted to help women in domestic violence situations. I hope I did.
    You can by now probably guess that I don't agree with hitting a woman. Walk away from arguments. If a woman hits you or slaps you be a man and walk away. If a woman assaults you and you are in a position where your LIFE is in danger then protect yourself. That doesn't mean whaling on them but separate yourself from the situation. What this player did was wrong! He could have walked away and by doing that he would have made the woman look foolish.
    Sorry for the rant.

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    Umm... Yeah... Really

    by TheRealU
    2015-07-06 12:45:11

    o·ver·come

    verb

    succeed in dealing with (a problem or difficulty).



    I think it is fair to say that if he ends up in prison, he has not overcome his upbringing/issues. He may have been on the right path, but if the allegations are true, he has veered way off course.

    Yes, he has endured a lot during his life - and while it might partially explain his actions, it certainly doesn't excuse them.

    Best of luck to him, and I think I speak for most when I say I hope he gets his $#!+ together.

    Yay semantics!

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    I'm a #%!@ing idiot because I don't think women should have free reign to throw punches at men? K

    by utebehindenemylines
    2015-07-06 14:31:54

    Has nothing to do with misogyny. I don't believe anyone should throw punches at anyone. I also don't believe anyone should be absolved any guilt because of their sex.

    If you throw a punch at someone, expect to be punched back.

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    People need to chill out over this Hatfield situation.

    by UteThunder
    2015-07-06 14:00:27

    I don't think anybody is saying what he has admitted to doing is okay, but in the grand scheme of things it is pretty minor.

    I think we have to ask ourselves if it is worth throwing away this kid's future over?

    For what he is guilty of, he should certainly be punished; by the legal system and the University of Utah. But kicking him off the team and out of school is not going to help straighten him out. Most likely he will wind up right back where he came from which doesn't sound like a good environment.

    If his role ends up being limited to the cell phones, I see no reason why he should receive anything more than a suspension of a few games(in addition to the punishment from the legal system).

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    Wow. Really?

    by Ute2004
    2015-07-06 12:23:18

    Dominique Hatfield felt the plumbing back up in his eyes and spill out of his eye sockets the day they buried his close friend and teammate, Marvin, in his football jersey five years ago. Talk about traumatic and devastating. Both kids were just 14 years old.


    "Coming out of Crenshaw, I saw some of the best football and basketball players that nobody's ever heard of that went down a bad route, and now things aren't good for them," he says. "Seeing them helped me make it out. … It's up to you if you want to get out. If you want something better, you have to choose. And you need help from some of the people around you. I had that help from family and friends. That's why I'm here."


    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/utes/5831388 8-89/hatfield-says-receiver-monson.html.cs p

    Taking shots at a kid who has overcome more than most, and probably more than you, for a mistake he made, coming from the background he came from?

    Un - freaking - real.

    Best of luck to Hatfield. Hopefully he gets through this, gets his education and makes a difference. He is a special kid with a lot of talent. He made a really stupid mistake. Let's hope he learns from it.

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    Some football players are so stupid it's astonishing.

    by Chad Sexington
    2015-07-06 13:03:02

    Jason Pierre Paul had an offer from the Giants $60mm that was unsigned. He plays with fireworks and hurts his hand, et voila! No more offer. $60mm firecracker. Smart.

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    First, I don't care what is in the charging information, that property does not have a value of $1,000+.

    by cbute
    2015-07-06 14:00:58

    The state has over-valued the property, maybe so it can get to the A misdemeanor level. The proper valuation of that property is in its current state, meaning it gets second hand value, or what is commonly referred to as "yard sale value." If you don't like that explanation, well, you've got about 500 years of law to overturn so you better get moving.

    Second, the A misdemeanor not being a "big deal" is in the legal sense. An A misdemeanor is not a "big deal" because that's how the people of Utah have chosen to deal with that type of offense. You can play pretend all you want, but don't shoot the messenger. If you think that's wrong, then start lobbying. If there is a place in the U.S. where the government could get the support of its citizens to really lay the hammer down and pretty much end the future of people who do petty theft or other "lower level" crimes, it's Utah. Get those immoral #%!@ers out of Utah--am I right?

    Third, an A misdemeanor IS a "criminal" conviction. Nobody said anything to the contrary. But, guess what, you're surrounded by "criminals." Gasp.

    Fourth, don't preach to me about how the state of Utah should handle it's business. I don't live there. I expect the holier than thou attitude and sermons to come from BYU fans, not from fellow Utah fans.

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    RE: Stealing?

    by homer
    2015-07-06 17:16:31

    I'm proud to say my parents taught me different values than you have. I hope to God I've taught my children different values too.

    In my world, taking a misplaced item is stealing, regardless of that person's condition. By that I mean the victim or perpetrator.

    It's not even a close call.

    Stealing

    Then the perp tries to sell the stolen property?

    If the police report is accurate; if he really did that, he won't be a Ute. Whit won't condone it, for the good of Domo, the other players, and the program.

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    The irony here is that the kid gets charged with robbing a prostitute at knifepoint, but byu fans want to see him come to Provo to 'live a better life'

    by NarfUte
    2015-07-06 07:56:25

    If Hatfield gets through his legal mess and is allowed back on the team (a stretch at this point) they'd blast Utah for having no integrity or something stupid.

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    If you and your white knighting buddies want to take punches have at it.

    by utebehindenemylines
    2015-07-06 15:08:08

    I stand by what I said, no gender is free of retribution.

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    RE: Here's the (supposed) video

    by Big Kahuna
    2015-07-06 10:22:19

    West had good acceleration in that video. Guessing this will not make his huddle highlight film?

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    Christ, do you even read? This entire discussion is about punches. F-uck off with your self righteousness. Welcome to ignore.

    by utebehindenemylines
    2015-07-06 15:26:31

    No one 'has it coming'. Simply that gender doesn't free anyone of guilt.

    From the beginning you've twisted my words to fit your misogyny agenda.

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    I would hold off on complete judgement on the situation at this point.

    by Umanami
    2015-07-06 13:27:18

    Based on the information I have, and it is practically 1st hand; the felony 1 charge will not stick. The problem Dom has is he knows who committed the felony and he will need to give them up in order to proceed and take care of the misdemeanor. The victim in this case has conflicting information regarding the identification of the perp. The 1st description does not come close to matching Dom. I cannot comment further on this while the case is ongoing.

    Having said that, Dom still was stupid concerning the sale of cell phones knowing they were not his. That in and of itself is bad enough, but that is only a misdemeanor.

    My prediction: Dom will serve his suspension and pay his debt to society and will play football again for Utah.

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